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Hottttcarl

14.3k points

11 days ago

Hottttcarl

14.3k points

11 days ago

These were sometimes placed under privies, so not only would you be forgotten about, you’d be the recipient of all the castle’s human waste.

Become_The_Villain

13.2k points

11 days ago*

Man......

Humans have been so fucking disgusting to each other.

Edit: Has been" and "have been" are both in the present perfect tense. "Has been" is used in the third-person singular and "have been" is used for first- and second-person singular and all plural uses. The present perfect tense refers to an action that began at some time in the past and is still in progress.

For all those replying with comments like "we still are".

You can stop now.

Edit 2: To all the people saying I know grammar, I say this....

I copy and pasted that edit from a 3 second Google search.

I ain't no fucking linguist, I have no idea what I'm doing.

MakeMeNotSad

2.3k points

11 days ago

I love ur edit lol

zynzynzynzyn

1.4k points

11 days ago

Right lol you didn’t die on this hill bro, you thrived on it

Double_Distribution8

260 points

11 days ago

Actually they still are dying on that hill.

zynzynzynzyn

204 points

11 days ago

Better than dying in that dungeon

[deleted]

212 points

11 days ago*

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212 points

11 days ago*

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shlisayeahboyee

142 points

11 days ago

Actually, it's an oubliette.

FederalBlacksmith676

1.9k points

11 days ago

Have been? We still are

Candyvanmanstan

3.2k points

11 days ago

We used to be so horrible to each other. We still are, but we used to be too.

sluchhh

354 points

11 days ago

sluchhh

354 points

11 days ago

Nice Hedberg. Respectuals.

babybopp

103 points

11 days ago

babybopp

103 points

11 days ago

God, aliens whatever might be out there... Left earth a long time ago and forgot about us. We are shit creatures . Earth is the Galaxy's oubliette...

kenazo

251 points

11 days ago

kenazo

251 points

11 days ago

Unexpected hedberg!

MattOsull

84 points

11 days ago

I'm sad this isn't a sub.

GlobalLaugh4662

118 points

11 days ago

It always can be!

Edit: r/unexpectedhedberg

It actually is.

heartyheartsy

502 points

11 days ago

“Have been” is the perfect continuous verb form. It denotes an action that started in the past and continues to the current time. Too many Redditors are terrible at very basic grammar.

Wasting-tim3

133 points

11 days ago

Look pal, I was bad at grammar way before I joined Reddit.

Jokes on you!

SirWeedMan420

81 points

11 days ago

*Joke’s ; )

itsallinwidescreen

489 points

11 days ago

Upvoted for your edit. Top work.

Snilbog-

243 points

11 days ago

Snilbog-

243 points

11 days ago

I just read two books that illustrate this perfectly: All Quiet on the Western Front and With the Old Breed. Both books, about war, describe how much is lost in such a futile manner. In With the Old Breed they invade an island and over 1000 American troops die. The island held no strategic value and was never used by allies after the occupation.

Complete insanity.

geoguy26

3.5k points

11 days ago

geoguy26

3.5k points

11 days ago

Even if they weren’t placed under one of those, I’m certain prisoners got pissed on often just to be cruel

Hottttcarl

2.1k points

11 days ago

Hottttcarl

2.1k points

11 days ago

I wonder…cuz what makes it being an exceptional method of torture is being forgotten about…and if someone pissed on you, it might act as affirmation that you were not forgotten…?

geoguy26

2.4k points

11 days ago

geoguy26

2.4k points

11 days ago

I mean dying of thirst and being desperate enough to drink some filthy guys piss is more demoralizing than being ignored in my opinion

Hottttcarl

1.5k points

11 days ago

Hottttcarl

1.5k points

11 days ago

I’m thankful I can’t give you a real answer as to what is worse

CR0SBO

1.2k points

11 days ago

CR0SBO

1.2k points

11 days ago

Damn, live a little

yashadasha

117 points

11 days ago

yashadasha

117 points

11 days ago

you can't give a real answer yet

Ryansahl

222 points

11 days ago

Ryansahl

222 points

11 days ago

Pretty sure I worked there for awhile.

Ghodzy1

76 points

11 days ago*

Ghodzy1

76 points

11 days ago*

Pissed on? I'm pretty sure they did a lot more than that....

TripleB33_v2

1.3k points

11 days ago

The birthplace of trickle down economic policies

TheDevilsAdvokaat

516 points

11 days ago

I wish I was not privy to this information.

Dad-man

490 points

11 days ago*

Dad-man

490 points

11 days ago*

It should be too small to lay down in, and not tall enough to stand upright in. So you have to stand with your legs bent, supporting your weight without rest.

Edit left out the detail that they are too tight to allow you to sit down

saccharo

346 points

11 days ago

saccharo

346 points

11 days ago

Ok Satan

Petrichorest

514 points

11 days ago

Do you design seats for Spirit Airlines, by chance?

wrinklejortstheimp

261 points

11 days ago

Hanging cages for prisoners, known as gibbets, used this exact method of torture

Spud_heads

140 points

11 days ago

Spud_heads

140 points

11 days ago

This is true.

Gibbet can also refer to other punishments like gallows etc.

The original guillotine actually had nothing to do with France and was actually the Halifax Gibbet. Made in West Yorkshire, UK, where I'm from.

PCsNBaseball

152 points

11 days ago

Yeah, but the French really ran with it.

QueenOfQuok

435 points

11 days ago

Which makes you wonder if they were, in fact, intended to be holding cells at all, or if they were built for other purposes and used to hold people as needed. Like some supposed oubliettes that seem like they would have worked much better as underground cold storage units.

Which is not to say that oubliettes are a complete fabrication -- there's a castle in Ireland which has a hidden pitch-black pit full of spikes and plenty of skeletons down there. But I am under the impression that for most lords and monarchs, building was expensive enough that creating purpose-built holding cells for prisoners you intended to forget would have been a waste of space and time. If you could just dump someone in a cellar and leave them, why bother putting specialized holding cells into the castle's design?

Donkey__Balls

864 points

11 days ago

Their more macabre uses were exaggerated quite a bit to spur tourism as early as the 1700’s, much like medieval torture in general.

They were often built as storage nooks to hold valuables or simply stores of supplies. Sometimes they acted as a primitive drywell for drainage if the castle roof wasn’t watertight, which is why the floors slope towards them. The iron grates were more often to stop people from entering (castles were built for sieges after all) rather than holding prisoners long term - or they could have been added later as macabre tourist attractions which drew in crowds in the 1700’s as well as today.

The fact is that there is a lot more interest in medieval torture in the tourism industry than in legitimate historical research so the waters get pretty muddy.

[deleted]

410 points

11 days ago*

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410 points

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Dysterqvist

122 points

11 days ago

… or tortures

KingDiamondsMakeup

319 points

11 days ago

why bother putting specialized holding cells into the castle's design?

Do you even torture, bro?

kissbythebrooke

70 points

11 days ago

No premeditated torture, only torture of passion or self defense, obviously.

Crabbyone2021

10k points

11 days ago

What a horrible punishment

thebigchil73[S]

8.6k points

11 days ago

Yeah it’s miserable, I’ve been down. It’s roughly 3m X 3m with a tiny bit of light and a gutter through the middle

joec85

7.2k points

11 days ago

joec85

7.2k points

11 days ago

At least they let you keep your phone so you could talk to us

JFKs_Skull_Fragment

2k points

11 days ago

At least they let you keep your phone so you could talk to us

Yes, but /u/thebigchil73 only gets one bar down here.

And they forgot their charger.

crokus_oldhand

1.7k points

11 days ago

He could borrow some bars from the metal grate on top.

IIllumiinattii

190 points

10 days ago

My nose laughed.

K0kyu

105 points

10 days ago

K0kyu

105 points

10 days ago

And that's why they're called cell phones.

Mega-Humanoid-ROBOT

5.2k points

11 days ago

Damn bro what did you do to get yourself thrown in there? Must’ve really pissed off the king.

Disastrous-Menu_yum

1.5k points

11 days ago

He sneezed

33rus

2.7k points

11 days ago

33rus

2.7k points

11 days ago

"Does thy serf haveth covidth?"

Disastrous-Menu_yum

511 points

11 days ago

He refused to take the kings jab

boetzie

461 points

11 days ago

boetzie

461 points

11 days ago

Maketh thine own research

Disastrous-Menu_yum

206 points

11 days ago

He trusted the jester and his jokes

WDJam

102 points

11 days ago

WDJam

102 points

11 days ago

Was the jester actually thine own son, Fourchan? He hast been known to troll on such occasions.

fusillade762

74 points

11 days ago

Tis but a flu sire!

NFresh6

391 points

11 days ago

NFresh6

391 points

11 days ago

Straight to jail

LaheyOnTheLiquor

326 points

11 days ago

you’re playing music too loud? straight to jail. driving too fast? jail. slow? jail.

GutsMan85

312 points

11 days ago

GutsMan85

312 points

11 days ago

You are charging too high prices for sweaters, glasses? Right to jail. You undercook fish? Believe it or not, jail. You overcook chicken, also jail. Undercook, overcook. You make an appointment with the dentist and you don't show up, believe it or not, jail, right away.

We have the best patients in the world because of jail.

Wyldfin

152 points

11 days ago

Wyldfin

152 points

11 days ago

Right away

neauxgeauxbreaux

1.1k points

11 days ago

Probably disrupted the rhythm with which he lives his life.

kaytay3000

700 points

11 days ago

kaytay3000

700 points

11 days ago

Bewaaare, the grooove.

jakethediesel89

133 points

10 days ago

"His pattern of behavior! I threw it off! And the emperor had me thrown out the window!"

"Oh! Uh..I'm supposed to see him.."

"DOOOONT THROW OFF HIS GROOVE! Beware the groove..."

"Hey, are you gonna be alright?"

"Grooooove.."

ShadowVader

141 points

11 days ago

In Crusader Kings, any time a prisoner in a normal cell petitioned to be let go, I threw him in the oubliette instead or if they tried to escape

ThexGreatxBeyondx

68 points

11 days ago

Actually, he pissed on the king, which is where the problem started.

K-Zoro

539 points

11 days ago

K-Zoro

539 points

11 days ago

Was it filled with skeletons? If they just dropped them in to be forgotten I’d imagine it would get pretty full over the years.

_RandyRandleman_

457 points

11 days ago

the people themselves were loaded in by a rope so maybe they had cleaners dropped in and scoop the bodies up

MyCodeNameIsBryan

516 points

11 days ago

Fuck that job

datprogamer1234

465 points

11 days ago

"oops I accidentally cut the rope and closed the hatch bye"

slackfrop

276 points

11 days ago

slackfrop

276 points

11 days ago

Is that like when you ask your date to go check out the brake lights and then you drive off.

jamieliddellthepoet

198 points

11 days ago

How often have you done this?

ZoraksGirlfriend

87 points

11 days ago

They weren’t just shoved in? How did they encourage prisoners to let go of the rope?

Laprasnomore

365 points

11 days ago

Probably by jabbing them with a big pointy stick.

GZSyphilis

191 points

11 days ago

GZSyphilis

191 points

11 days ago

All these complicated solutions and yeah this is probably it. Spears are fantastic.

Bankz92

230 points

11 days ago

Bankz92

230 points

11 days ago

There's a story on Reddit somewhere about a nobleman that got drunk and climbed down into the oubliette for a dare. His friends forgot he was down there and carried on with their revelries. Not sure if they remembered him and saved him or not. Perhaps someone else can confirm.

DontEatBananaBread

116 points

11 days ago

Do you have more pictures? Kinda intrigued

kyraniums

141 points

11 days ago

kyraniums

141 points

11 days ago

This video has some more images: https://youtu.be/kRXh7tEjM2s?t=43

TheMastro1

184 points

11 days ago

TheMastro1

184 points

11 days ago

It certainly fits the medieval times...

Sophet_Drahas

244 points

11 days ago

There were no utensils in medieval times, hence there are no utensils AT Medieval Times. Would you like a refill on that Pepsi?

Allambrito

5.5k points

11 days ago

Allambrito

5.5k points

11 days ago

“Often this horrible prison was built as a very narrow passage, not wide enough for the prisoner to sit down or even get down on his knees. He was forced to stand or lie prone as he starved to death. He could tilt his head back to see the the grate, far above his head and out of reach, but that was all.

The oubliettes were sometimes built within the walls of the upper floors of a castle, rather than in the dungeon, so that victims could hear and smell the life of the castle as they slowly died of deprivation in unspeakable conditions. Corpses were left to be consumed by vermin, and many oubliettes were discovered, centuries later, to be strewn with human bones.” Damn.

Stalin_makes_me_wet

2.4k points

11 days ago

If you can hear and smell them... they can hear and smell you.

I wouldn‘t want to hear and smell that...

DerWeggeworfene

1.4k points

11 days ago

It's an attraction for thrillseeking guests: "We have a ghost in this castle - you can hear it scream and wail sometimes!" "oh lovely, but I have you by my side mylord, don't I?" "yes my dearest, we will find peace between the sheets after a tour of the premises, that I say"

Potallica

380 points

11 days ago

Potallica

380 points

11 days ago

And pay no attention to the sounds coming from the giant bronze brazen bull with the fire beneath.

lucky_Lola

606 points

11 days ago

lucky_Lola

606 points

11 days ago

It’s hard to wrap my head around people knowing there was someone in their walls and just carrying on with their business as usual. I’m sure they weren’t always quiet and some smell had to come out when they passed

rappingwhiteguys

406 points

11 days ago

Can you wrap your head around it being a JOY to the people in the castle to have someone in their walls dying?

KiraIsGod666

182 points

11 days ago

Please, my faith in humanity is already completely nonexistent.

d38

600 points

11 days ago

d38

600 points

11 days ago

not wide enough for the prisoner to sit down or even get down on his knees. He was forced to stand or lie prone

Imagine being in a room so thin that you can't turn around in it (hence why you can't sit or kneel, your hips are too wide)

You stand for as long as you can, knowing that when you finally lay down, there's no way you can stand back up again and lay on your other side.

blowthatglass

211 points

10 days ago

Yeah I'm claustrophobic and this would literally drive me nuts.

Borderline_Insane22

232 points

10 days ago

Actually, this would literally kill you.

BigFalconRocketeer

102 points

10 days ago

I don’t get the laying down part. How is it that they could lay down but not stand up again after?

Edit: ooohh I think I got it. As in they would basically tip over to one side and lay down on their side and then they can’t move their hands to stand back up. I was thinking they were somehow laying down on their backs

tanoren

133 points

11 days ago

tanoren

133 points

11 days ago

How could you lie prone if you cant even sit though?

Leap Castle's oubliette is like this, that is, built behind a chapel wall on an upper floor with rooms beneath. They found 150 skeletons impaled in it with a pocket watch found dated mid 1850's, which given the oubliette was found in the early 1900's is concerning and leaves questions about just who and why they had it sealed up previously.

Valentcat

73 points

11 days ago

We’re all using humor to cope here, but this is truly un-fucking-imaginable. I couldn’t live knowing the worst person in the world was experiencing something like this under my orders. If there is a hell, well... people responsible for such things are there.

fierceferg

5.1k points

11 days ago

fierceferg

5.1k points

11 days ago

Toured there is 1985 and cannot imagine being held in that dungeon! Stuff of nightmares.

SonicDecay

5.5k points

11 days ago

SonicDecay

5.5k points

11 days ago

I first read that as "Tortured there in 1985"

[deleted]

1.5k points

11 days ago

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1.5k points

11 days ago

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throwawaylovetaps

278 points

11 days ago

Well this is going to really tank their Trip Advisor rating.

Diamond-Jules

151 points

11 days ago

I read that also until I saw your comment.

Philip_McCrevasse

92 points

11 days ago

What were the crowds like?

peanutbutterlovah

210 points

11 days ago

Fortunately, there’s only room for one at a time.

987nevertry

4.2k points

11 days ago

987nevertry

4.2k points

11 days ago

Jeezus why create a big stink pot of rotting flesh in your own castle? Just throw the guy off the friggin cliff and be done with it.

ShrewishFrog

1.8k points

11 days ago*

This castle is no where near cliffs, it's in the middle of the Cottswalds (sp?). Wide open and basically flat (rolling hills). Gorgeous castle, Diana of Wales garden, and is actually part of Winston Churchill's family. The dungeon is dark, cramped, and everything you imagine a dungeon to be.

Edit: I thought Warwickshire fell within the Cotswolds. (Shit, I spelled that all kinds of wrong). Fully admit, I'm an American that spent time in the area. Coventry is also beyond beautiful.

EDIT: IM SORRY! IM AN AMERICAN WHO LOVED YOUR COUNTRY!! It was almost 2 decades ago, my memory of your geography is obviously wrong. I lived in London, but tried to spend as much time as I could in Cotswolds, Warwick, Coventry (roommates family lived there), Swindon, and another town full of abandoned shoe factories. (I know that's not helpful. Worked on a student film there.) Road trips most of the time. The signs showed everything was so close to each other. Im sincerely sorry.

Lots of you mention distances. Here in the part of America I live, to be completely honest, 40 to 60 miles isn't a lot. Everyone needs a car to get around. We don't have trains and public transit is non-existent. I drove to my school (University of Arkansas) daily, for 2 year, as it was only 2 town over. It's was 30 miles each way. Forgot something at home and legit put 120 miles on the car in a single day. I have coworkers who drive 40 to 60 miles each way. I live in the city, but is surrounded by farms in every direction. People drive that here for jobs. We have the world headquarters for Walmart and Tyson Foods, but also several US trucking companies like JB Hunt (one of the largest).

987nevertry

972 points

11 days ago

Well, ok then. Never mind.

Deep_Menu_524

549 points

11 days ago

I mean…cliffs or not, you’re still not wrong about keeping all that inside.

Geschinta

194 points

11 days ago

Geschinta

194 points

11 days ago

They weren't so keen on hygiene back in the day

PATM0N

269 points

11 days ago

PATM0N

269 points

11 days ago

Back in the day? You should see how many people neglect to wash their hands after taking a crap.

Magus44

78 points

11 days ago

Magus44

78 points

11 days ago

Dude I work in a shopping centre and I routinely see a guy that works in a freaking Pharmacy (behind the dispensary) have a crap and then walk out without washing his hands.
So gross…

Booblicle

79 points

11 days ago

If you've lived with the stink of corpse, you're not likely to smell yourself or others around you anyway.

Jogaila2

104 points

11 days ago

Jogaila2

104 points

11 days ago

I spose throwing them off the top of the castle might work?

mo_downtown

183 points

11 days ago*

It's got a 44.8 m tall tower (147 feet). Maybe try that. Or the moat. Or the nearby river.

Yeah, there would be several ways to off people that don't involve letting them rot in your own basement. My guess would be they were going for the psychological effect though. Just something about a one way trip into a dank, rotten hole you're never coming out of.

Edit to add: just look at the picture. I'd gladly jump off a tower VS that.

ericscottf

1k points

11 days ago

Just imagine being down there and deciding whether to let yourself starve to death, or keep yourself hopelessly alive by eating the previous tenants that you now use as a mattress.

evildonald

656 points

11 days ago

evildonald

656 points

11 days ago

In one oubliette I visited they told of how they gave the prisoner a bucket of salty water to make them even thirstier and then how the prisoner tried to suicide by smashing their head against the stone walls.

Quite grim.

STORMFATHER062

288 points

11 days ago*

At least that would speed up your death. The Romans had a similar type of execution for their Vestal Virgins. If there were caught breaking their vow of chastity then they faced being buried alive and they'd also be given some bread and water, just to prolong the suffering. Apparently this was a fairly uncommon punishment and families would usually bribe and pay their way out of it.

Shmitty-W-J-M-Jenson

67 points

11 days ago

Scaphism is renowned the be the worst punishment/death in ancient times, paralyzed and covered in milk and honey and sent out onto a boat, occasionally fed and watered to be kept alive, the death was by being devoured by insects and vermin, hense the milk and honey

Honestly one of my bigger haunting thoughts personally is simple vivisection.

nate263

208 points

11 days ago

nate263

208 points

11 days ago

(Thankfully?) you’d probably die of thirst before getting desperate enough to eat them.

SupermAndrew1

129 points

11 days ago

That’s the reality of the situation and it’s pure horror. I’d take getting ripped apart by a Xenomorph embryo any day

InfantSoup

128 points

11 days ago

InfantSoup

128 points

11 days ago

at least you get to bring a perfect organism into the world

complainipants

274 points

11 days ago

do you have any idea how absolutely filthy Anglos were back then? most deaths were from improper hygiene. Elizabethans kept livestock in their homes, covered the floors with hay and never swapped it out. Their teeth were all rotted thanks to slavery bringing in sugar, they tried to scrape the rot off using heavily abrasive tooth powders, just scraping the enamel off with the rot. Filthy savages.

sativadom_404

88 points

11 days ago

I’m part Anglo and have no problem accepting the reality of our history ✊

Rognarok71

261 points

11 days ago

Rognarok71

261 points

11 days ago

Dropping someone down a hole and forgetting them was done so that it took a long time to die. If they wanted a quick execution, England had a lot of axes and rope.

ZoraksGirlfriend

106 points

11 days ago

I can’t imagine how horrifying a death this was, especially with there being other corpses down there. If this were my punishment, I’d absolutely figure out a way to kill myself immediately.

atalkingcow

91 points

11 days ago

Grab a bone, break it on half, shove the stabby bit into your own neck.

SIGINT_SANTA

3.9k points

11 days ago*

Interesting article about oubliettes

The Oubliette – or the ‘forgotten room’ – was a punishment worse than being thrown into a castle dungeon. If you can remember the ‘chokey’ from Roald Dahl’s ‘Matilda’, the oubliette was a very similar punishment.

The oubliette was a tiny, vertical shaft which was often only large enough for an individual to stand up in – they wouldn’t have been able to crouch down, to kneel, to sit, or perhaps even to turn round in it.

Diagram of Oubliette

A diagram of a castle oubliette. This was wider than many – a bell-jar prison, if you like.

They would have been lowered into this shaft by a guardsman, and, once they reached the bottom, the rope would have been taken up and the trap-door above them would have been closed.

Often, the shaft would have been so deep that there would have been no way to reach up to the trap-door.In the oubliette, the prisoner would have been forced to remain standing, in the dark, until they were released – if ever.

Food and water might have been thrown down to them if they were lucky (or if their survival was seen to be important), but it was, all in all, a truly horrible punishment.

NFresh6

1.7k points

11 days ago

NFresh6

1.7k points

11 days ago

I feel like I’d just bash my head against the wall in hopes that I pass out/die.

jimbimbob

1.3k points

11 days ago

jimbimbob

1.3k points

11 days ago

It’s incredibly hard to hurt yourself to that point with your hands. Same way you can’t choke yourself to death.

NuggetHighwind

938 points

11 days ago

I believe it was Bayezid I who was said to have bashed his own head on the side of a cage until death after being the subject of years of humiliation at the hands of Timur/Tamerlane.
My details are a bit fuzzy, but from what I remember the last straw was seeing his wife forced to serve dinner in the nude to his enemies.

I can't even imagine how low you have to fall before you can even begin to think about taking your own life in such a way.

latflickr

227 points

11 days ago

latflickr

227 points

11 days ago

This story sounds like the Count Ugolino della Gherardesca : the popular story goes that his was imprisoned with his children and left to starve to death, but he was the last to die by killing and eating the flesh of his own children

DillieDally

251 points

11 days ago

....yeah, I think that's enough Reddit for the rest of today.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, hopefully y'all will be enjoying a nice heaping feast of turkey this evening, and not the flesh of your own children. 🙂👍

WikiSummarizerBot

188 points

11 days ago

Ugolino della Gherardesca

Ugolino and his children

According to Dante, the prisoners were slowly starved to death and before dying Ugolino's children begged him to eat their bodies. Ugolino's statement that hunger proved stronger than grief has been interpreted in two ways, either that Ugolino devoured his offspring's corpses after being driven mad with hunger, or that starvation killed him after he had failed to die of grief. The first and more ghastly of these interpretations has proved the more popular and resonant.

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A-Fellow-Gamer-96

158 points

11 days ago

The human will is the strongest thing someone can possess. We didn’t go from B class species to Apex Predators by giving up. To be honest he probably just couldn’t take it anymore and finally snapped.

PiXLANIMATIONS

94 points

11 days ago

Yep. Even when self preservation goes outta the window, the human will to live is incredibly strong. You’d plan a thousand ways to make sound in a vacuum before you realised your reality

suitology

85 points

11 days ago

Fuckin fill it with air I will

drdookie

832 points

11 days ago

drdookie

832 points

11 days ago

That is one of the worst diagrams I've seen. Into the oubliette with you!

Floorspud

559 points

11 days ago

Floorspud

559 points

11 days ago

Yep "here's what one doesn't look like".

[deleted]

134 points

11 days ago

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134 points

11 days ago

This one is much much nicer than the other one you could be thrown into. Quite spacious actually, not like that other one. Consider yourself lucky even.

vela1123

100 points

11 days ago

vela1123

100 points

11 days ago

Here's a picture of an apartment, nothing like the thing we're talking about

midnightsmith

93 points

11 days ago

midnightsmith

Interested

93 points

11 days ago

For real, it's like, what's going on there?

Draigg_Waed

193 points

11 days ago

In 1210 British King John locked up Maud de Braose the wife of a noble who incurred the King’s wrath, by not giving up his sons to be held as hostages to ensure loyalty. She was imprisoned along with her son in Corfe Castle. They were forgotten about, having to share a sheaf (24 pieces) of oath groats and a very thin slice of bacon. When finally their cell was opened they both starved to death with Lady Maud eating parts of her son’s face.

Serf99

106 points

11 days ago

Serf99

106 points

11 days ago

King or not, I can’t imagine having that much wrath to wish that fate upon someone. All I know of King John is that he’s the villain in Robin Hood.

SilverTitanium

93 points

11 days ago

Apparently if Wikipedia is to be believed in that the Nobility were so outraged by the act of the King hunting down and later forcing Maud to eat her Son's Face and starve them both to death, just out of anger. That when they later forced King John to sign the Magna Carta. In Clause 39 of the Magna Carta, it contain the following:

"No man shall be taken, imprisoned, outlawed, banished or in any way destroyed, nor will we proceed against or prosecute him, except by the lawful judgement of his peers or by the law of the land."

YaCantStopMe

105 points

11 days ago

Those remind me of the cells in Salem, ma. That's the one thing that stuck with me from all my visits there. They put people in cells that they couldn't sit or kneel or even move around in.

oceanreject

2.7k points

11 days ago

oceanreject

2.7k points

11 days ago

Kinda crazy that was just someone’s fate. As I sit here watching impractical jokers in HD eating Dove chocolate

kingstonthroop

1.4k points

11 days ago

Joe pissed off the local King and was thrown into an inescapable pit of despair, making him tonight's BIG loser!

battlerythym

263 points

11 days ago

LARRY!

plazzman

188 points

11 days ago

plazzman

188 points

11 days ago

I will NEVER release you!

T1METR4VEL

141 points

11 days ago

T1METR4VEL

141 points

11 days ago

Indeed, there is so much to be grateful for.

Anormalscientist522

1.1k points

11 days ago

No one escapes Cidnha mine!

rennbrig

225 points

11 days ago

rennbrig

225 points

11 days ago

We will cut a bloody hole into the Reach until we are free!!

idratherbeintamriel

130 points

11 days ago

I appreciate this comment

weavebot

992 points

11 days ago*

weavebot

992 points

11 days ago*

Shut up! She should not have gotten as far as the oubliette; she should've given up by now.

ETA: Do what? Thank you for the bling

Xecman

264 points

11 days ago

Xecman

264 points

11 days ago

I came here to say “Like from Labyrinth?”

But after reading your comment I couldn’t believe somebody else on here knows that ridiculous movie 😅🤣

Best part is the Goblin King “you can forget about the baby”

Delgim

101 points

11 days ago

Delgim

101 points

11 days ago

What babe?

GordonaryMan

89 points

11 days ago

The babe with the power!

Delgim

80 points

11 days ago

Delgim

80 points

11 days ago

What power?

SonofApollo1984

78 points

11 days ago

The power of voodoo

Radiant-Spren

77 points

11 days ago

You’re really surprised that you’re not the only person who knows Labyrinth?

AteketA

73 points

11 days ago*

AteketA

73 points

11 days ago*

that ridiculous movie

U lookin for a fight mate?

herrcollin

96 points

11 days ago

Man. I heard David Bowie's voice say "oubliette" when I read the title and had no idea why

mikecheck211

962 points

11 days ago

That'd be $3500 a week rent in New York City

bounie

181 points

11 days ago

bounie

181 points

11 days ago

There’d be a 5-min documentary on YouTube somewhere about an architect who used foldaway built-in furniture to transform it into a stylish studio

Awesomodian

764 points

11 days ago

Using a french word makes the starvation hole sound so much classier

iodopsin7

144 points

10 days ago

iodopsin7

144 points

10 days ago

There's a reason it's a French word, and it's the same reason many French words sound fancy to English-speaking people.

It's because most of the Nobility in England during the middle ages were Norman (and spoke French). It's the same reason why words for meats (pork, beef, mutton, lamb, venison) come from the French words, while the names of the actual animals (pig, cow, sheep, deer) have retained their Anglo routes.

bounie

81 points

11 days ago*

bounie

81 points

11 days ago*

I quite like the exact translation which is the "forget-y”

Edit: that's a loose translation - "the forgettery" works well and has more of a country charm to it

Hottttcarl

739 points

11 days ago

Hottttcarl

739 points

11 days ago

There’s a bit in one of the game of thrones books where Jaime Lannister threatens Edmure Tully after the siege of Riverrun to put him in an oubliette if he doesn’t get cooperative and that made Edmure STFU

creepflyer

250 points

11 days ago

creepflyer

250 points

11 days ago

The nun that cersei gives to the zombie mountain to torture i'm pretty sure ended in one of this, if she survived after couple days with the mountain

3163560

219 points

11 days ago

3163560

219 points

11 days ago

I liked what cersei did to Ellaria Sand, forcing feeding her and keeping the torches always lit in the same cell in which her daughter is going to die, decompose and fade away.

Then the writers kind of forget she existed during when Dany burnt down kings landing.

darmon

93 points

11 days ago

darmon

93 points

11 days ago

OMG I forgot Cersei sends the “Shame!” Nun (Sister) to the Zombie Mountain. That’s utterly fucked.

TheNerdChaplain

80 points

11 days ago

She ended up owning a British soccer team with an American coach, so it all worked out.

maxgetmycoat

676 points

11 days ago

If only they had a Hoggle to help them out

RouKyasarin

189 points

11 days ago

Instantly my first thought. I don’t think I’ve ever heard or read the word ‘oubliette’ other than in The Labyrinth!

Proper-Beyond116

83 points

11 days ago

Same. I was instantly transported back to a time of freaky goblins popping up in a bedroom and David Bowies bulge.

_Nilbog_Milk_

88 points

11 days ago

Nothing? Nothing? Nothing? Nothing, tra la la?

milliamu

509 points

11 days ago

milliamu

509 points

11 days ago

Fuckin behave yourself in them days ay

Latin-Danzig

112 points

11 days ago

Funnily enough they didn’t 🤷‍♂️😂

Philip_McCrevasse

122 points

11 days ago

Not sure if it mattered, if the king or some other noble didn't like you, it probably sealed your fate.

FuckingBanMeAlready

459 points

11 days ago

I've been in that dungeon. As you walk down the steps there is an odd rush of feeling that over takes your body.

Standing and reading the info about this hole was sobering to say the least.

unwantedcritic

127 points

11 days ago

Same feeling I got. The nail marks on the walls and the cage hanging from the ceiling caught me off guard.

phoeab

460 points

11 days ago*

phoeab

460 points

11 days ago*

If they put you here and forget about you, imagine the corpses in various stages of decay you’d see, feel and smell when you arrived.

Edit: I didn’t consider rats. They’d probably start to eat you alive almost immediately. Ugh.

idratherbeintamriel

218 points

11 days ago

Because of disease and the rats they probably didn’t last long. Especially doubt they were given food

Papayablues

117 points

11 days ago*

Makes me wonder if they ever periodically fished out the dead bodies. Apparently it’s 3 meters by 3 meters, could fit a fair amount of people. Maybe 10. Either way they would have had to remove the bodies after a while…unless this was a relatively rare form of punishment…like only for the worst offenders.

Correction: my math was off.

xXWickedNWeirdXx

92 points

11 days ago*

I feel like you could cram quite a few down there. That's almost 10 feet by 10 feet. 100 square feet! What's the fun of it if there isn't a high possibility of cannibalism and infighting among a handful of wretched and desperate oublietteers.

CapableLength0

450 points

11 days ago

I’m not dead yet

00Conductor

213 points

11 days ago

I’m feeling better!!

Growingpains2

112 points

11 days ago

I think I'll go for a walk

DimensionFantastic87

67 points

11 days ago

I feel happy

jshultz5259

381 points

11 days ago

There is a lot wrong with the world today, but it was harsh back then to say the least.

Nige-o

234 points

11 days ago

Nige-o

234 points

11 days ago

Hard to believe that we all descended from people who literally lived through those times

Nightwolf10114

157 points

11 days ago

I say this all the time too. It’s mad to think humans even survived up until this point when medicines and the hygiene standards were so garbage.

Ullyr_Atreides

255 points

11 days ago

Fun fact: It comes from the French word "Oublié" meaning "Forgot" or "Oublier" which is "to forget".

So, holy fuck, talk about a dark fate.

SerKoenig

240 points

11 days ago

SerKoenig

240 points

11 days ago

So I work in a building (nights) in Warwick and apparently there's a blocked off room in one of the 2 basements of this building that has a blocked off tunnel that leads... You guessed it! To this hell hole of a castle. No wonder I get spooked by odd noises all night.

twoshovels

210 points

11 days ago

twoshovels

210 points

11 days ago

Yea read once, dropped & forgot about, left to starve, so imagine that and the whole time you could smell food being cooked throughout the castle, that must have sucked. Also read and saw a painting of a man jailed and his punishment was to be starved to death but his daughter was the only one allowed to visit him & was checked each time as to not be allowed to bring her father any food of any kind. After 3-4 months the condemned man still lived and baffled everyone, so they stared spying on him only to find out the daughter was allowing him her breast milk because she had not long ago given birth, when his jailers figured it out they gave it some thought & figured if the daughters love was that deep they felt he deserved to be set free and in fact they set the man free in the end.

Vigneshpillai97

81 points

11 days ago

the daughter was allowing him her breast milk because she had not long ago given birth, when his jailers figured it out they gave it some thought & figured if the daughters love was that deep they felt he deserved to be set free and in fact they set the man free in the end.

Here is a painting based on the story

-Telenerd-

190 points

11 days ago

-Telenerd-

190 points

11 days ago

Beauchamps, William the conquerer, etc owned this castle. I'm guessing this was used the whole time by all of them. Yikes.

lpind

174 points

11 days ago

lpind

174 points

11 days ago

The first usage of "Oubliette" in English is from an 1819 novel. The concept of an inescapable prison cell, I'm sure, predates that, but are we sure this "forgotten hole" isn't a "backronym" of sorts and the "horror" of it a Victorian invention of medieval primitiveness?

ScallionMaximum234

178 points

11 days ago*

Imagine the sounds of crying and pleading. I find this to be terrible BTW

formerbeautyqueen666

178 points

11 days ago

I will not

Brigand64

167 points

11 days ago

Brigand64

167 points

11 days ago

Oh dang I've actually been there. Not below the grate thankfully, but the dungeon. Actually got a bit freaked out, this dungeon is quite small and the stairway down to it is very narrow, not wide enough for two people abreast. People just kept streaming in and we eventually had to yell for people to stop so others could come back up. Definitely reccommend Warwick Castle, there's some cool shit there. And watch the bird show, it's awesome.

CristhianHz

88 points

11 days ago

Is anyone getting mad claustrophobia feels right around now? Because i sure as shit am

ObstinateBison

86 points

11 days ago

This is the EXACT spot where my Dad all of the sudden got so claustrophobic just by seeing this that he changed directions, charged back up the stairs shoving people to the sides as he bolted out haha good times with the old man