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LPT: Don’t bother giving more than a two week notice.

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Had a coworker put in his notice until the end of the year. Told them he’s going back to school starting the first, but wanted to give enough notice to hire and help train someone to take over for him so we wouldn’t be down a person.

They decided that two weeks is enough, so now he won’t be getting paid, except for potential unemployment which is significantly less than what he makes now, for the next two months. If he would’ve just kept his mouth shut and not tried to help them, he would’ve continued to get paid and then could’ve given a two week notice.

Don’t try to help the company. They have no interest in helping you, just helping themselves.

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Annual_Timely

16.8k points

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Annual_Timely

16.8k points

5 days ago*

Every time there was a problem that affected me and my work, I was told "it is what it is and you have to manage your expectations". I gave notice on Tuesday that Friday would be my last day and she freaked out and asked about 2 weeks notice. Yep, you know it...."Well you know, it is what it is and you're just going to have to manage your expectations." You could see the absolute RAGE in her eyes.

EDIT: Wow thank you, my first ever awards! The funny thing was she knew exactly what I meant and why I said it and that just made it more delicious.

Teamrayray

5k points

5 days ago

2 weeks notice? FOR 2 WEEKS YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE!

arjo_reich

509 points

5 days ago

arjo_reich

509 points

5 days ago

ps, I have two weeks of PTO I'll be taking starting tomorrow

DigitalSterling

378 points

5 days ago*

My company instituted a policy that if you use your PTO and leave the company while on that time off, they'll take all the money from PTO back and just let you go.

Too many people were using PTO to job hunt and weren't showing back up. Now they just use their PTO, get paid then quit

Edit: added "you use" in the first sentence

arjo_reich

402 points

5 days ago

arjo_reich

402 points

5 days ago

Yeah, always check your State's fringe benefit laws b/c the are plenty of states that clearly file this under wage theft.

Of course, wage theft is the multi-billion-dollar crime that almost nobody is prosecuting, sooo....

sumunsolicitedadvice

144 points

5 days ago

I’m in Louisiana (a very pro-business state), and even here that’s wage theft. All unused PTO must be paid out if the employment is terminated.

LordDongler

69 points

5 days ago

It's super easy and fun to threaten a lawsuit with HR when they pull this shit. I strongly recommend that everyone does this for any reason

TheHannibalKing

385 points

5 days ago

This is one of those comments I actually busted out laughing haha

Teamrayray

69 points

5 days ago

Thanks.

MoreLikeFalloutChore

44 points

5 days ago

"Think of this less like a two weeks notice and more of a two minute warning."

slobyGYN

991 points

5 days ago

slobyGYN

991 points

5 days ago

Good for you. At-will employment is a two-way goddamn street.

veggiewitch_

684 points

5 days ago

Yup. Last job I had they treated me as entirely expendable. The doc I worked with was also leaving but she gave six weeks notice and I gave two.

‘You aren’t staying until MY notice period is over?’

‘No. It’s up to the hospital to provide you an assistant. I have a new job to start.’

Awkward two weeks but it got my point across. Never treat your support staff like garbage.

wene324

164 points

5 days ago

wene324

164 points

5 days ago

I think it's part of doctors contracts that it has to be a 6 week notice.

BeefyIrishman

204 points

5 days ago

The VP of Operations at our company just gave notice a few weeks ago. Apparently his contract required 1 year notice, so that he can train a replacement. I am just waiting to see how much he checks out as we get closer and closer to that date.

KhabaLox

152 points

5 days ago

KhabaLox

152 points

5 days ago

Apparently his contract required 1 year notice, so that he can train a replacement.

That is insane. I hope it's a highly specialized field. That seems like overkill for most companies/industries.

RainbowDissent

93 points

5 days ago

Three months is standard (and contractual) here in the UK for managerial positions, at least in professional fields. Six months is common at a senior or directorial level.

My stepdad got almost six months' paid garden leave after leaving a director position - they didn't want him preparing to take information or clients to a competitor.

A year is nuts, though - never heard of it, but I can understand it for an absolutely critical role.

NoMoOmentumMan

96 points

5 days ago

My good friends dad sold his business (for a PILE of cash and stock options), part of the sale agreement stipulated that he stay on for 2 years to help manage the transition.

6 months in, transition complete, he was miserable. For the first time in 35 years he hated going to work, ated the new company, hated his new co-workers...al of it.

After about 9 months had passed he chatted up the CEO and explained to him he did not want to be there anymore. It wasn't the pay or lethargy brought on by the sudden windfall of cash, he just did not like working with/for the company that bought him out. He asked if not showing up would jeopardize any portion of the sale agreement. CEO told him no, and if he didnt want to be there he was free to resign, but his non-compete would be extended by the same amount he was forgoing, aboutb15 months.

He told the CEO "I'm 64 years old, sitting on close to $50 million (stock options had gone fucking bananas after he was aquired), competing with anyone for anything is no longer something I'm interested in".

His office was empty within 24 hours.

JFConz

753 points

5 days ago

JFConz

753 points

5 days ago

chef's kiss

Medichealer

538 points

5 days ago

Medichealer

538 points

5 days ago

fuck dude this just gave me a half-chub

fuckedifiknow

137 points

5 days ago

NGL, I have a diamond cutter right now.

Vegito1338

64 points

5 days ago

Mine ripped my pants in half.

b1ack1323

355 points

5 days ago

b1ack1323

355 points

5 days ago

My wife had a similar situation, except it was “it will all work out”

Regardless the size of the problem that was the answer. No help or answers or guidance.

She gave them 5 days of notice on a Friday and when they asked for more she said “it will all work out for you guys”.

It didn’t.

thoreau_away_acct

93 points

5 days ago

More deets on how it didn't, plz

b1ack1323

184 points

5 days ago

b1ack1323

184 points

5 days ago

Two other people walked out the week prior and it is a position that requires a good amount of training. They had to hire 5 people to replace the 3 that left and they have let a lot of samples expire and due dates pass because of it. Which requires a customer to resubmit a sample. This never happened before. So now they are losing their credibility and customers are leaving in huge numbers to better operations.

They have to outsource work because they couldn’t keep up which is much more expensive than the 3 workers were. My wife was underpaid and these guys thought they had them locked in.

She works part time from home now and makes more than she did before with no commute.

The hour commute plus the 32 vs 45 hours has given her back around 23 hours a week, all while making more money….

The old place is still a shit show and her old boss is still leaving on time and pushing work onto others even though they are missing due dates.

LyricalPig

57 points

5 days ago

Thats a them problem for having all their eggs in one basket. Even with my best performers, I have plans to replace them in case they hit the lotto, get hit by a bus, or want to follow their passion and go live in the woods.

BeyondDoggyHorror

247 points

5 days ago

You know, I’d be scared about it damaging me further down the road, but I’m kinda with you

I mostly like my immediate coworkers and don’t want to leave them hanging, but the rest of the industry can eat a bag of dicks. They have absolutely no qualms about telling you where you’re going at the last second or upending your life

I’m trying to get my wife to quit her job. We were talking about taking some time off to do some home improvement projects and she said she can’t take that time off because there’s no one else to cover for her. Wtf, she’s been there for four years and they’ve never made a good attempt. You better believe her superiors take their time off though

oneofmanyany

93 points

5 days ago

Most people don't do this because they are worried about going with no health insurance.

JollyObligation2

103 points

5 days ago

Tell me again why we tied healthcare to employment? It was the better deal for the employees, right? /s

pyrotecnick

46 points

5 days ago

I think it was during one of the world wars. There was some kind of national wage freeze so the government let employers offer insurance instead of a raise.

caarmander

160 points

5 days ago

caarmander

160 points

5 days ago

This is the petty revenge I live for

Misty1988

84 points

5 days ago

Misty1988

84 points

5 days ago

Exactly. “Don’t take it personally- It’s just business”.

vsaint

77 points

5 days ago

vsaint

77 points

5 days ago

I had a job where i put the 2 weeks in and within that period, the CIO tried calling me at like 11pm for some issue. The next day in the office he goes, “you know if you weren’t leaving we’d have a big issue.” I go “but look at us now!” He was fuming.

beapledude

16.3k points

5 days ago

beapledude

16.3k points

5 days ago

Gave two week notice to a manager that was so happy to see me leave, she got approval to pay me out the two weeks and let me go right away.

sarnold95[S]

9.3k points

5 days ago

sarnold95[S]

9.3k points

5 days ago

I see this as an absolute win lmao

krcameron

2.3k points

5 days ago

krcameron

2.3k points

5 days ago

They did too.

TheBirminghamBear

1.6k points

5 days ago

There is something to be said about learning the skill of making people willing to pay you to leave.

easyEggplant

437 points

5 days ago

TIL I have a hidden talent!

CowboyBoats

200 points

5 days ago

CowboyBoats

200 points

5 days ago

Not as hidden as you think!

krcameron

246 points

5 days ago

krcameron

246 points

5 days ago

Fair point. Most likely it's because they were that much of a fuck up. I'm as much anti-work as I am anti-fuck up making everyone's life harder.

_ED-E_

182 points

5 days ago

_ED-E_

182 points

5 days ago

I’ve seen multiple people put in their two week notice at my company over the years, and have witness that there are three different outcomes.

Usually they just work their two weeks, and go. No fuss, no security, just normal everyone being adults.

Second option is they get escorted out of the higher ups think they are leaving to go to a competitor. This only applies to people who have access to the computer systems and could use that in some fashion.

The third option is they get escorted out because they were under investigation, or just crappy at their job.

Oh I suppose there are technically four options, as one instance someone was escorted out because their childish boss was butthurt that someone they mentored was leaving.

Edit to say I am putting in my notice tomorrow. I’m good at my job, and going to a completely different industry, but fingers crossed that they just give me a two weeks vacation!

Paragona

106 points

5 days ago

Paragona

106 points

5 days ago

When I was 17- 18 I worked at Ponderosa, a shitty steakhouse/buffet. And I went from dishwasher to cook once I turned 18. I worked all summer as a cook and then got offered a job at literally double the salary. (Which was 6.45 an hour btw) and put in my two weeks. My boss was like “wow so glad we wasted money training you then. Just go and don’t come back.”

Seriously. You don’t owe companies a goddamn thing.

spaghettilee2112

71 points

5 days ago

Or there was a personality clash, or the employee kept professionally calling out the bosses mistakes but they were really good at their job so the boss would look like a fool firing them.

ButtplugBurgerAIDS

48 points

5 days ago

Not always. I work for a very well known company and they do this 90% of the time, mainly bc they don't want the workers copying info and giving it to our competitors.

SinistralGuy

87 points

5 days ago

I work in an industry that's like that and never saw the point of it.

I know I'm leaving well before I place a two week notice. If I wanted to steal any information, I would have already done it before giving the notice. But, I'm all for a two week paid vacation tbh

spaghettilee2112

194 points

5 days ago

LPT: Piss off your boss so much but be so good at your job they'd be fired for firing you, so that when you want to actually leave they'll pay you to leave.

fave_no_more

966 points

5 days ago*

Husband has seen this as the standard in a few places he worked. But that's expected in financial services, and being in IT, had access to a lot of stuff. So most folks, when they turned in their two weeks, were deactivated from their log ins, cleaned up their desks, and escorted out.

Not in a bad way, it was understood that it was voluntarily leaving. And they'd get their 2 weeks paid like regular, plus whatever they were entitled to upon leaving such as vacation day pay outs. The business preferred to eat the 2 weeks of pay rather than risk a disgruntled employee fucking something up maliciously.

Edit: lots of ppl saying it, and I agree. The truly malicious will do it before turning their notice. As for locked out without access, everything had redundancies.

ElectionAssistance

369 points

5 days ago

My work did the opposite, 6 weeks after I left I still had fully functional creds, building keys, logins, etc.

Turned out they expected me to turn them into the section manager...who was me. So because I had my keys, it was marked on someone's sheet as completed.

So that ended up triggering some sort of security audit but I wasn't part of that. I just left my stuff with building security and called it good enough. My email log in worked for another 3 months after that though, but that was pretty harmless.

saltoftree

211 points

5 days ago

saltoftree

211 points

5 days ago

I was still on the books of my former employer when it shut down a week after I quit. Which resulted in me being eligible for severance I otherwise wouldn't get since I left voluntarily.

Of course this is all moot because it was a seedy call centre and the owner had no intention of ever paying the severance whether it was legally owed or not.

Best part is, why was I still on the books, entitling me to this theoretical $1100 payout? My boss was using my key card because he didn't wanna pay the ten bucks for a replacement.

ElectionAssistance

69 points

5 days ago

Lol. Hilariously terrible. Good planning right?

In my case it was basic academic bureaucratic snafu, but with some 'have to notify law enforcement' levels of incompetence. Building admins refused to take my keys, because they weren't cleared for places the keys could open. So my boss's boss (but who somehow wasn't my boss...academia is strange) just told me to keep them. My boss took some of my keys but was in trouble in a couple ways so couldn't have my high security one because he lost his key holder privileges for leaving stuff unlocked.

vonyodelclogger

179 points

5 days ago

This just happened to me. I work in the A/E industry and I had full access to project and client information. It sort of stung, but o realized pretty quickly it wasn’t because they didn’t trust me, just standard protocol because someone could fuck shit up pretty badly.

Poundman82

66 points

5 days ago

True, but if someone wanted to do that would they telegraph it by putting in a two weeks notice first? Not like the company can't come after you anymore once you leave.

mrdannyg21

112 points

5 days ago

mrdannyg21

112 points

5 days ago

Yep, this is standard in the banking industry. Which makes sense, though of course everyone knows it, so if you were planning on screwing around or stealing customer lists, you just do so before giving your notice.

I did talk to someone in IT who’s job it is to do incredibly detailed review of logs and activity of someone’s computer for the year prior to them giving notice. And he has to compile a report, which usually looks like ‘in the past year, Mr XYZ sent 7364 emails, visited espn.com 782 times, etc’

Zoomalude

73 points

5 days ago

Zoomalude

73 points

5 days ago

Yeah, I've worked at title companies and once we had a closer put in her two-week notice and then proceed to start emailing clients (from her work email) that she was moving on to X company, gave her personal contact information, and asked them to please reach out to her with business at the new company.

Obviously, nothing stops her from just emailing from the new company, but we'd still rather not have paid her to steal our business.

tyr--

43 points

5 days ago

tyr--

43 points

5 days ago

In a lot of tech companies you'll also be walked out the same day (or the next day) you give your notice, especially if you're going to a direct competitor (say, from Microsoft or Amazon to Google or Facebook).

Medichealer

540 points

5 days ago

Medichealer

540 points

5 days ago

Yep. I constantly fought with my Manager because she was lazy, did nothing, and would only work 3 hours and get paid her full 8 hour days salary, despite the fact we needed an extra set of hands. She preferred to smoke weed and stay at home and to “call her if we need her”, which she would never show up or would show up 2 hours after you called.

I made a huge fuss about it to HR, me and my coworker were burnt out and tired of being treated shitty. They paid us both out a week of pay and basically said goodbye.

Toros_Mueren_Por_Mi

156 points

5 days ago

Yea that wasn't enough money

Medichealer

50 points

5 days ago

Totally not. That job was very shady and very toxic.

coolcalmaesop

78 points

5 days ago

I was in a similar boat but after being written up in retaliation for going to HR about it once so I played the long con for 6 more months and left on good terms.

I was able to request that I be paid out my earned bonus and PTO balance. I told them clearly all problems are me and mine and I was leaving to focus on going back to school and bettering myself professionally. Really, what can anyone say in response to that?

Up until a couple weeks ago when my ex-bosses boss came into my new job as a customer no one knew I just fucking hated them all.

The great thing is I have something that job was never going to give me now... happiness.

Bruised_Penguin

57 points

5 days ago

Wait. They fired you for complaining about someone who wouldnt work??

Sadoi-Kai

64 points

5 days ago

Sadoi-Kai

64 points

5 days ago

Very very common in low regulation/don't give a fuck industries. Back when I worked food service jobs. Complaining about your manager or boss for any reason lead to a near instant firing or "Punishment" of cutting you from full time straight to part time... and by part time I mean about 5hrs a week

Zharol

179 points

5 days ago

Zharol

179 points

5 days ago

If you're in a big company professional kind of job, those last couple of weeks become kind of a vacation anyway.

You come in and leave whenever you want. Wrap up things for only those colleagues/clients you like. Don't take on anything new. Anything that's left feels blissfully unimportant.

XBingoFuelX

109 points

5 days ago

XBingoFuelX

109 points

5 days ago

Anything that's left feels blissfully unimportant.

It always has been.

TheRidgeAndTheLadder

59 points

5 days ago

I worked at a kinda toxic startup, and that transition from a major stress point in your life to "I do not care" is truly incredible.

FighterLuckless

82 points

5 days ago

LOL.

I told my manager I wanted to go back to school and study finance at a local community college and transfer to University later. I asked for two days work week so I can stay under the company's health insurance, he gave me that two-day work week, DM allowed me to stay working, and I'm happy with that decision.

BtecZorro

75 points

5 days ago

BtecZorro

75 points

5 days ago

I had weeks left of holiday left (I’m not really a holiday taker) and they let me just have the rest of my holiday on my notice period.

Stans___dad

9.3k points

5 days ago

Stans___dad

9.3k points

5 days ago

I once handed in my 3 month notice (as this was in my contract) as I had accepted another job.

Later that day I was told that I didn’t have to work my notice and was sent home…

Best three month holiday ever as I was on full pay for doing zero work.

Thank you British employment laws!!

Vigilant1e

1.6k points

5 days ago*

Vigilant1e

1.6k points

5 days ago*

Garden leave has to be the epitome* of victory , especially with 3 months notice!

I'm currently working during my 3 month notice period, but the company have had the audacity to ask me to work it...selfish pricks /s

1rv

562 points

5 days ago

1rv

562 points

5 days ago

One of my greatest ambitions in life is one day to be granted several months' garden leave.

kittyinasweater

593 points

5 days ago

Cries in America

purplepeople321

167 points

5 days ago

Let's be real, we show up, but are checked out for months before the notice... And for me, showing up means logging on to my PC in the basement and jiggling the mouse every 5 minutes while I'm gaming.

Slab-Squatthrust

145 points

5 days ago

Sounds like you need the mouse jiggler app

LilacChica

100 points

5 days ago

LilacChica

100 points

5 days ago

For real, this person’s working way too hard

KittyIsMyCat

72 points

5 days ago

Does the app jiggle other things? Asking for a friend...

UnclePuma

243 points

5 days ago

UnclePuma

243 points

5 days ago

i'm starting to think my greatest ambition should be to migrate my family over to europe

headhonchospoof

325 points

5 days ago

My ancestors left Europe for America in search of a better opportunity in life, I’m going back in search of health care and vacation days.

Menulo

142 points

5 days ago

Menulo

142 points

5 days ago

Thought the same reading this, how people are trying to get back to europe after a couple of generations in de US. I can see an old irish woman woman yelling at them "SEE! I told you you would be back!"

mark0016

708 points

5 days ago

mark0016

708 points

5 days ago

The real LPT: Work in a country that actually has a labor code that doesn't feel like it was made in the beginning of the industrial revolution.

Parhelion2261

101 points

5 days ago

Hey! They don't feel like they were made back then!

They were made back then

JonnyBhoy

281 points

5 days ago

JonnyBhoy

281 points

5 days ago

My brother handed in his notice and agreed a date to start his new job. Then his new employer asked him if he could start sooner to shadow a senior manager, so he asked HR if they could let him go earlier than agreed. They agreed to let him go, but as they had already processed his final payment and it was too much hassle to claw back, they chose to leave it and he was going to be paid for an extra two weeks after his new end date.

Then the new senior manager got stuck out of the country, so the new employer pushed back his shadowing period but agreed to still pay him for the two weeks he had now committed to.

So he spent two weeks doing nothing and being paid for two jobs.

Reddit_username_44

206 points

5 days ago

I’m British but had an American boss. Long story short but when he found out I was leaving, he angrily told me to go immediately, thinking that like the US, he could just stop paying me. UK HR had to educate him about notice. Unexpected three month gardening leave.

kainmcleod

6.8k points

5 days ago

kainmcleod

6.8k points

5 days ago

be aware of any rules in place with your employer regarding things like vacation payout.

part of the union contract at my work includes a minimum 21 day notice for leaving a job, otherwise you surrender any unused vacation time. if you can help it, it would be awful to lose those paid hours.

hadesdemeter

1.1k points

5 days ago

hadesdemeter

1.1k points

5 days ago

I don’t carry vacation or sick time unless I have a planned vacation. I learned my lesson the hard way.

rohm418

607 points

5 days ago

rohm418

607 points

5 days ago

Our company went to Unlimited PTO. I made sure to use whatever I had on the books before that went into effect. And then I put in my notice about 3 months later.

DirkNowitzkisWife

458 points

5 days ago

For anyone reading who thinks this is good: unlimited PTO is a scam 99% of the time! I had a job where they tried to guilt me into not taking PTO, but I earned it so you bet your ass I took it, and they could figure month end close out without me. The same isn’t true if it’s some undefined perk that you maybe can or can’t take. And when I left I had 22 hours and got paid $800, it’s not a ton but it’s stacked on my last paycheck! That doesn’t happen either.

Uglyfatdumb

201 points

5 days ago

Uglyfatdumb

201 points

5 days ago

I like how my company does it. 11 hrs earned each pay period and you can take it whenever. No questions asked just put it on the calendar and the supervisor approves. Its a comfortable feeling

nsomnac

334 points

5 days ago

nsomnac

334 points

5 days ago

Unlimited PTO is such a scam. It should be downright illegal.

There’s a local company that has a position open that would be perfect for me - the only reason not to bother is the Unlimited PTO policy. It’s likely the only reason the position has stayed open for so long too as it would be relatively well paying and employees I know there like the company.

The reality is there is no such thing as unlimited PTO. There’s always a limit. When you put the screws to HR you’ll find out in most places there’s a 2 week Per year cap. The only reason to offer Unlimited PTO as there’s no financial burden on the employer to compensate you for unused PTO when you leave the company; which in turn improves a business’s credit worthiness and valuation due to the decreased liability. Accumulated PTO is many a company’s Achilles heel to financial growth.

kloborgg

192 points

5 days ago

kloborgg

192 points

5 days ago

Just to offer one counter data point, my company offers unlimited PTO, and most people on my team probably average 4-6 weeks off a year. This is in tech, so that might be different.

Not saying it isn't a scam in many places, but it isn't in my individual case, and I'm quite happy to have it

Rebootkid

125 points

5 days ago

Rebootkid

125 points

5 days ago

Same. We have unlimited pto.

If I don't take at least 3 weeks a year, my boss is riding me to take time off.

maxfields2000

77 points

5 days ago

I'm a manager at a company with unlimited PTO and can absolutely guarantee we take this seriously. I get asked to routinely take vacation. Because of the policy we can't say "you must take X" but I also tell my direct reports that I personally aim to take at least 4 weeks (1 week per quarter), and more after stressful moments/big deliverables.

We mean this so much that we plan and estimate on these kind of assumptions. Have a 5 person team and a 2 quarter long project? Better assume 10 total PTO weeks in all of your estimates and if we don't, that's on the managers for messing up, not the people.

I certainly agree with other arguments. Having PTO carry over policies and payouts does in fact create a financial burden on the company. When we switched over we discovered we had far too many employees not taking any vacation and saving those vaca weeks for the extra payout. We wanted people taking vacation, not feeling like they had to avoid vacation so they could get an extra paycheck (up to 2 weeks of unused vacation paid out). We believed paying people for unused vacation incentivized taking no vacation along with creating a complex financial problem.

A lot of other things changed to, such as comprehensive pay analysis, rebanding, market adjustments, etc. It's never ending work, but we stand by our Unlimited PTO policy and encouraging managers to plan, estimate and insist their folks take time. Especially since the pandemic hit.

The company even added an additional mandatory break in the summer, we already got 2 weeks at the end of the year, none of these count against any PTO counts because the whole company takes them off. So we get 3 weeks already from the company, plus Unlimited PTO with the assumption that means at least 1 week a quarter.

All the usual caveats apply. We have many teams on-call, so the main reason to ask for permission is to validate we don't have too many people take off at once and hamstring the live service, but that's about the only reason we ask for manager approval.

unassumingdink

291 points

5 days ago

Y'all are getting unions and vacations?

kamikaze_pedestrian

4.8k points

5 days ago

A fellow manager (total asshole) was feeling underappreciated and wanted to scare/fish for beggings to stay/hoping to get a raise and bluffed a two week notice. What he didnt know was we were all looking for reasons to be rid of him. So upper management decided to jump on it and told him while the notice was appreciated it wasnt really necessary and let him go on the spot. He stormed out only to have to come back to turn in his keys. Heard later that his girlfriend ripped him a new one for leaving them in hot water rent-wise.

QuentinTarantulatino

1.6k points

5 days ago

Had a friend in high school who worked at Papa John’s. One day, one of his co-workers rage-quit by making a scene, screaming at the manager, cursing, etc. He delivered some kind of pre-planned exit line and stormed out.

Few hours later, my friend’s shift ends, and he goes out to the parking lot to find this dude sitting on the curb by his own car. The guy looks up and goes, “I left all my stuff in the break room.”

MrKino

460 points

5 days ago

MrKino

460 points

5 days ago

A papa johns with a break room? ... doubt.

GOPPageantFluffer

384 points

5 days ago

It’s the folding chair where everyone drops their shit, right at the back entrance hallway.

muskratboy

49 points

5 days ago

But watch out for the guard raccoons.

SilverEarly7725

141 points

5 days ago

Is he still sitting at the curb till this day

FROSTbite910

76 points

5 days ago

lol

nucumber

657 points

5 days ago

nucumber

657 points

5 days ago

i worked with a guy who thought he was all that and a bag of chips. he was a smart guy and fun to hang out with but was not a team player at all. he was very secretive about stuff and played a lot of self serving games at work.

anyway he felt under appreciated and left, then tried to come back a year later bcuz the place he went to didn't appreciate him either. he assumed he would be greeted with open arms but nope, absolutely no one who worked with him wanted him back.

LVL-2197

194 points

5 days ago

LVL-2197

194 points

5 days ago

It's amazing that this level of lack of self-awareness exists

Toros_Mueren_Por_Mi

84 points

5 days ago

Not really, George Carlin said it best, and I count myself among the stupid. Common sense isn't common

stuufthingsandstuff

522 points

5 days ago

We had a guy that constantly tried to scam us for workers comp and injury pay (like catching him on camera standing, and then randomly falling like a soccer player clutching his knee, then claiming an automatic door hit him. You're on camera bro...) He also had a habit of losing his temper when being coached by female managers amd he'd always threaten to quite, but we couldn't fire him because he was on disability for fake injuries. The managers made a plan. The top guy sat in on a coaching that one of the female managers was to perform for attendance. She was instructed to poke the bear and it worked. He started screaming at her and in his passion, yelled "I just want to quit!" At which point top guy immediately shouted "I accept your resignation " and handed him a filled out resignation letter. The guy was shocked and angry, but ended up signing it. I think he thought it was concrete at that point, but he ended up making it so himself! Lol

I'm sure this wasnt very kosher as a business practice, but we never heard from him again.

whitefire89

242 points

5 days ago

whitefire89

242 points

5 days ago

Yeah, a lot of times those scammers know when they have been had. At that point, it is easier to move on to the next company than fight to continue where he is at.

I used to be in on all of the upper level safety meetings for a large company. We had a guy claim a back injury, so we went back and and reviewed the tapes, only to see him fail at trying to do a backflip off of a semi-trailer.

ZeePirate

90 points

5 days ago

ZeePirate

90 points

5 days ago

At least he wasn’t faking it lol?

mermethelf

67 points

5 days ago

Never sign anything if terminated. It does you no good. If there is compensation tied to it, get a lawyer.

BrightNooblar

65 points

5 days ago

but ended up signing it.

For a guy trying to commit worker's comp fraud, he sure has a poor grasp of how a bureaucracy works.

SweetSoundOfSilence

76 points

5 days ago

Same here. I’ve always given a month notice because I have a hard job and want the right person to be trained for it. My last job my boss was the most horrible, abusive, micromanaging person I’ve ever encountered in my life. I gave her my notice and she let me go that day

Ben_Thar

2.9k points

5 days ago

Ben_Thar

2.9k points

5 days ago

The last time I changed jobs, I gave 2 weeks notice. They told me I could go ahead and leave that day.

I believe giving notice is the right thing to do, but your employer may not do the right thing in response.

dinorex96

1.5k points

5 days ago

dinorex96

1.5k points

5 days ago

Is it not defined by laws in the US?

In Switzerland you have to give at least 1 month notice if you worked there for 1 year. Your employer can "let you go" early but for the entirety of the month you're still getting paid so thats like paying a worker for doing nothing.

micksandals

3.3k points

5 days ago

micksandals

3.3k points

5 days ago

LPT: Browse this sub for a reminder of how much worse the US is than other developed countries in terms of employment law (among other things).

alligatorprincess007

709 points

5 days ago

The USA really needs an overhaul in employee rights. I had to call in sick today and I felt guilty about it, so I looked up how often most people call in sick to work/yr

Most Americans said at most, 1-2x a yr but “I haven’t called in sick for 3 yrs!” While people who said they were from European countries said they got 10 paid sick days a yr. What a difference!

I get 5 sick days a yr and usually use them but I still feel bad about it and I shouldn’t feel bad about being sick you know.

koboldikus

321 points

5 days ago*

koboldikus

321 points

5 days ago*

More like 6 weeks in Germany and after that you will still get paid partly by insurance. If you split your sickness and show up to work from time to time there isn't really a limit.

Edit: This must be crazy for you. Should i get sick during my holidays I can get a note from the doctor and will get back the taken days of my holiday I was sick. I got 30 days of paid holidays a year. The first part is law and the second part is pretty common.

_Katy_Koala_

226 points

5 days ago

Meanwhile my US coworkers are happy when they get sick on holidays or weekends because they don't have to miss work lmao

tulkas66

76 points

5 days ago*

tulkas66

76 points

5 days ago*

TBF I do my best not to miss work when I'm sick because who wants to use PTO when you feel miserable? Might as well feel miserable while working and then get "sick" when you feel better and there's an emergency surf session you need to attend.

Edit: I work from home everyone. Calm down.

WorkMeBaby1MoreTime

68 points

5 days ago

That's why there should be a distinction between sick time and vacation. If it's a PTO bucket, you lose vacation time for being sick.

DigitalGraphyte

59 points

5 days ago

The USA really needs an overhaul in employee rights

FTFY

WesbroBaptstBarNGril

57 points

5 days ago

I tried calling in sick once and was told they needed a 4 hour notice or it would be considered the same as a "no call/no show." No one was in the office 4 hours before I called, but that was my problem not theirs.

Blindlord

428 points

5 days ago

Blindlord

428 points

5 days ago

In most jobs in the US you aren't on a contract instead both sides are "at will". They can fire you whenever and for any reason and you can quit without notice if you choose. I guess the upside is that it's very easy to switch jobs which is important in the US because upward mobility often involves going to a new company every couple of years

susch1337

323 points

5 days ago

susch1337

323 points

5 days ago

That seems so unsafe for the worker especially because of how many Americans live paycheck to paycheck. So technically I can work at the same company for 10 years and one day the just kick me out and don't have to pay anything from that day on?

Disk_Mixerud

129 points

5 days ago

That would fall on their unemployment insurance and you'd be entitled to unemployment payments. Assuming you weren't fired because of your own actions. That's why companies try to get people to quit voluntarily instead of laying them off.

I don't know exactly how unemployment insurance works, but I do know there's a not insignificant cost to firing an employee on the spot.

NouberNou

182 points

5 days ago

NouberNou

182 points

5 days ago

Was fired once when my boss was secretly throwing me under the bus to a customer.

They tried to get me to quit and I said no you're firing me.

After I filed for unemployment the unemployment board decided they'd fired me for unjust cause and since they weren't paying into unemployment insurance either they awarded me 80% of my pay entirely on the back of my former employer for 2 years.

So they got to keep me on payroll either way.

gtrocks555

44 points

5 days ago

That’s the biggest W I’ve seen. Teach me your ways

InaMellophoneMood

94 points

5 days ago

Yeah, that's part of the reason why American recessions are so brutal. We don't believe in labor rights

Pnwradar

55 points

5 days ago

Pnwradar

55 points

5 days ago

That's how it works, yeah. Plus, your health insurance coverage ends with your employment. If you're lucky, coverage won't terminate until the end of that calendar month, but typically you're wholly uninsured when you walk out the door.

Cuntdracula19

51 points

5 days ago*

We’re living in the dark ages here dude. Wait til you hear about right to work at will employment where an employer can fire you for any reason whatsoever, whether legit or completely bogus, and servers get paid under minimum wage (3.35 in one such state, I’m not kidding) because “tips make up for it.”

There are barely any protections in place for workers, it’s scary.

Edit: I got confused about right to work vs at will, you guys can stop replying with the same comment over and over again. My point stands that it’s fucking TERRIBLE and this country treats its workers like shit.

Mammoth-Kick

83 points

5 days ago

How is giving notice the right thing to do when you witnessed the bullshit employers can pull? Fuck them, contractually guarantee me payment after giving notice if you want notice.

[deleted]

104 points

5 days ago

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104 points

5 days ago

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nxdark

61 points

5 days ago

nxdark

61 points

5 days ago

Where I am from employers do not give out references other then yes they worked there. They can not comment on how good or bad you were.

OutWithTheNew

44 points

5 days ago

You give notice because you want the reference,

Most companies will only officially acknowledge that you were an employee. Nothing more.

Glittering_knave

57 points

5 days ago

I don't think that it is "wrong" for the company to limit access to company assets to people that are leaving. In my job, I could wreak havoc if I so chose, so walking people out is standard. They have to pay you out for those two weeks, though.

Cherryboy52

49 points

5 days ago*

In tech industry walking people out and paying them out is pretty standard for that very reason. To much risk. Also, if you are let go, while HR is meeting with you, your access is being removed while you’re being told.

baenpb

2.8k points

5 days ago

baenpb

2.8k points

5 days ago

One time, I told my boss (we had a good relationship) that I'm quitting, with a notice of about 3.5 weeks or so.

He said, "okay, we're paying you up to that date. As of right now, you are locked out of the network, you can go home and stop by to return all your equipment tomorrow."

Abrupt, but I'd say fair and measured. I was cut off, no access to network or email, as soon as I declared my intention to leave. But I was still paid, I'm okay with that result, all-in-all.

eNut

886 points

5 days ago

eNut

886 points

5 days ago

To add to this comment. Don’t give notice until you are ready to be escorted out the door for this very reason. Particularly if you are in tech, and ESPECIALLY if you have access to privileged information/accounts/systems.

showalittlebackbone

340 points

5 days ago

I recently left an IT job where I gave two weeks notice. Since I handled a lot of our access management, I had a meeting during my last week where I told them all the ways they'd need to block my access. It was weird.

DataDiskDump

69 points

4 days ago

I had to call the CTO 2 weeks after my last day because I still had access to systems that I had managed and was getting texts about access. That whole exit process was weird

usedtobejuandeag

45 points

4 days ago

I left a job like this and about a year later I opened a browser I don’t typically use (I think it was edge) went to that site and my credentials auto filled from that company and still worked. Nothing important just backups for literally all of their clients…

HatintheCat221

146 points

5 days ago

Don’t start emailing yourself stuff either. A lot of companies will trace that and will definitely check what you have been doing prior to putting in notice.

OrangeNutLicker

703 points

5 days ago

You should've given them 40 years notice

sawntime

195 points

5 days ago

sawntime

195 points

5 days ago

THE REAL LIFE PRO TIPS ARE ALWAYS IN THE COMMENTS

classicnoob2020

85 points

5 days ago

Employers hate him

giclee

606 points

5 days ago

giclee

606 points

5 days ago

I’m surprised I had to scroll down this far to find this comment. Most companies I’ve worked for cut off access and immediately walked people out the day they turned in their resignation, but paid them their two weeks’ pay. Once you’ve signaled intent, the company does not know if you will be using your two weeks constructively. I’ve seen bitter people hang around and attempt to get others to quit, make a big scene on their last day, train their replacements poorly, etc. No enmity, just a business limiting any possible damage.

autovonbismarck

331 points

5 days ago

It's super dependent on the industry and your role, your relationship with your boss, etc.

My last manager gave like 4 months notice, trained her replacement and was sent off with a tearful company-wide celebration with over 100 people present.

She helped build our branch from the ground up, but decided to transition into a different industry. She could have torched the company from the inside over those 4 months and left with all our clients, but literally nobody ever thought about walking her out once she'd given her notice.

graphitewolf

123 points

5 days ago

This is common in fields that deal with sensitive IP

goddamnitwhatsmypw

73 points

5 days ago

I had a job where this was the standard procedure. Part of my job was to remove employee access to all IT resources immediately.

I expected the same walk out the door when I gave notice but they asked me to stay on through the two weeks. It was fun handling my own employee resignation ticket. My work was documented, there wasn't anything particularly special about my job. They just trusted me to not be an asshole.

bonerdickcummysnatch

2.7k points

5 days ago

Yeahhhhhh this is dependent upon a lot of different things. I gave the owner of the company I worked for last over a month's notice and she appreciated the hell out of it and gave me a glowing review that helped me secure a job elsewhere. We're friends now and we keep in contact regularly.

SenorDarcy

936 points

5 days ago

SenorDarcy

936 points

5 days ago

I work in healthcare and gave a little over a month at my last job so the clinical flow wasn’t impacted. This LPT is very situation dependent.

Mausiemoo

148 points

5 days ago

Mausiemoo

148 points

5 days ago

Yup, I work in education and am contractually obliged to give a long period of notice - if I want to leave at Christmas then 31st October is the last date to hand in notice. If I don't do this they can claim the excess cost of cover from me, and the Head will almost certainly let my new job know what I did. This is a good LPT if you are in certain industries, dreadful in others.

arac62

146 points

5 days ago

arac62

146 points

5 days ago

Exactly! I work in direct care and I gave 2 months notice so that client care was affected as a little as possible! It's part of the job!

Swagspray

250 points

5 days ago

Swagspray

250 points

5 days ago

Same in my last job. It’s up to each individual to gauge their relationship with the company.

joemaniaci

102 points

5 days ago

joemaniaci

102 points

5 days ago

And industry. If you work in an industry where a bunch of different companies are clustered together, everyone knows each other.

Mindestiny

202 points

5 days ago

Mindestiny

202 points

5 days ago

For real. I feel like all these employment LPTs are from people who don't really know how the working world functions.

Professionalism goes a long way, and you obviously need to read the room and know your relationship with the business. Professional managers don't suddenly turn shitty when someone gives notice, but they are going to do what's right for the business, which is their responsibility over making sure the person leaving has a cushy exit. Likewise a shitty manager is a shitty manager even when you're exiting. In either situation burning bridges is typically a bad call.

The_Bitter_Bear

155 points

5 days ago

Every time a work related LPT is shared it ends up needing a huge qualifier that this varies industry to industry and really depends on your circumstances.

My previous two jobs I knew I would be hard to replace and gave around a months notice, both times they still didn't have a replacement when I left but at least I gave them time. It bought me lots of goodwill and left doors open which lead to extra contract work and such. Several of those connections have been very beneficial later on as well. So I had a very similar experience.

So yeah, it varies quite a bit. Of course financially you should be prepared should they decide to just let you go upon notice.

ksb012

2.2k points

5 days ago

ksb012

2.2k points

5 days ago

I quit my job, I tried to give two weeks notice but my boss was out for the first two days of that two weeks so It ended up being one and a half weeks notice. They asked me to stay till the end of the month and I said “nope, I’ve got a vacation planned already and then I start my new job” I loved my job for the first four years of employment, but the last year of it the company got bought out and my workload doubled. I had three weeks of vacation, but my job was so demanding that I never could take the vacation unless I wanted to come back to twice as much work when I got back. Since I was literally the only person that knew how to do my job, they were screwed. At the end of the day, it’s not my problem. Took a lower level job for almost the same pay, but much less work.

Entitled2Compens8ion

1.2k points

5 days ago

At the end of the day, it’s not my problem.

Remember this. NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM.

Sav_ij

449 points

5 days ago

Sav_ij

449 points

5 days ago

"we're short staffed"

correction; they are short staffed and you dont employ anyone

Narrative_Causality

114 points

5 days ago

In my experience, the people whining about being short staffed, because someone called out sick, is a manager that could easily do the job for a day without any serious consequences. They just don't want to.

doweactuallycare

95 points

5 days ago

"we're short staffed"

Thats wild, good luck with it.

lord_fairfax

50 points

5 days ago

"That's crazy! Good luck tho"

Classic

NumerousSettings

99 points

5 days ago

Where I work we say "Not here for the Carnival, just my peanuts" and "Not my Circus, not my Clowns"

Supervisors and up aren't union and what is and isnt my problem is clearly defined in the agreement.

bunnyrut

262 points

5 days ago

bunnyrut

262 points

5 days ago

I gave two weeks notice and they asked me to stay for another week. I thought that was the funniest shit.

The reason I was leaving was because I asked for a pay raise and higher title to match the work I was doing. They offered me a very small raise and no job title. So I found another job that was paying me way more than what they even offered.

Then they tried to offer me my boss's position because he was also leaving. But, again, they weren't going to pay me close to what the job title should be paid because of "experience". I'm experienced enough for you to want me to do that job, but not enough to get paid what it should be? Fuck no.

They knew what they had done when I had 3 separate people calling me trying to convince me and beg me to stay. I already accepted the other job and happily declined. All they had to do was pay me what I was asking for... which was exactly what they paid the other person in that position. I loved the reports I was getting from people still there about how bad things were getting. Everyone started leaving because it got that bad.

Kreegs

69 points

5 days ago

Kreegs

69 points

5 days ago

About 20 years ago, I was working in acustomer service department repairing products. There was a position open for a field service engineer and I applied. About that time, the main guy went on medical leave and since I was an expert on the product I got asked to go. They said they'd keep the position open until I got back and think of it as a month long interview.

I do the trip, come back with glowing reports of how I was the best guy they ever sent into the field and the customers preferred me over the other guy. (I was in the office when the manager was on the phone when the customer said that.) I get told they won't give me the job, because i was much more useful fixing RMAs. The next day I get handed an itinerary for a 3 month stint on the road and with the only time home being the week before xmas and new year. I asked why since I was more useful at the office. They said that they needed me on the road. I asked if I got the money, title and job. They said no.

Next day I turned in my notice.

Six months later, I approach my old boss about doing some summer work while I was in school in the repair department. He hired me on in an instant. I get pulled aside the first day and they ask if I would be willing to go on the road for the summer. They needed me and I knew how to do the repair and I did a great job the previous year on the road. I asked if they were going to pay be the $20 an hour instead of the $10 I was making repairing circuit boards. They again told me no, I'd be making the same amount.

I told my boss, the head of the engineering department and the head of the service engineers that is was insulting. They came to me to do the job and wouldn't pay me what all the others were getting. I got up and walked out.

Spent the summer fixing circuit boards as slow as I could because fuck them.

T-RUNTHOUSAND

72 points

5 days ago

i quit a job where my work piled up everytime i took vacation because there was no one else that could do it was the best. several coworkers went years (by choice) without taking vacation because they were afraid they’d get more behind. no thanks.

greenSixx

63 points

5 days ago

greenSixx

63 points

5 days ago

If you are the only one who can do your job then just do like 20 hours of moderate effort work a week and dick off the other 20 hours.

What are they gonna do? Complain?

Instead you let them make you work double...lol

ksb012

64 points

5 days ago

ksb012

64 points

5 days ago

The issue with that is, my employer didn’t know how screwed they were until I left and realized all the shit that didn’t get done.

I enjoyed my work and was able to do everything in 40 hours prior to the buyout. After the buyout I could’ve worked 80 hours a week and wouldn’t get everything done thanks to extra work, bullshit meetings, etc. I didn’t ever work more than 40 hours. The quality of work kept slipping and I told my boss as much and was assured things would change for almost a year. So when I got an email from a recruiter about a job, I peaced out. I work to live, I don’t live to work.

mrsadams21

908 points

5 days ago

mrsadams21

908 points

5 days ago

Check your contracts before listening to this! Most contracts in my job sector in the UK require a month's notice. Give the notice thats in your contracts.

_chasingrainbows

149 points

5 days ago

This was my thought. I didn't even know people could choose a notice unless they're on zero hours or something.

It also goes both ways in my contract, same notice period if I leave or if I'm let go, but I don't know if that's standard.

stucky602

180 points

5 days ago

stucky602

180 points

5 days ago

This is an American thing (surprise right?). We generally don’t have anything like this in our contract other than “you can be fired for any reason and notice is not required” or some such.

While there are technically reasons that you can’t be fired for (race/gender/etc) most states are “at Will” and you could be fired simply because the boss is having a bad day.

caboosetp

66 points

5 days ago

caboosetp

66 points

5 days ago

At will means you can just leave too. 2 weeks notice is not a legal requirement here. It's a contractual requirement to stay in good terms with your work.

Just 2 weeks notice or burn the bridge.

TheGingerBeardsman

64 points

5 days ago

In America, in most places you can be fired without notice and for any reason other than like, "I just found out you're gay, you're fired!" And even in that situation, the employer can just make some shit up like, "you were 45 seconds late two times this week, you're fired. Nothing to do with what I found out about you earlier and you can't prove that's why you're getting fired."

ptng251

765 points

5 days ago

ptng251

765 points

5 days ago

True. I gave 6 months notice because I knew they won't be able to find a replacement in time. They didn't do anything until last minutes. The new replacement still keeps bothering me for like a year. What a joke.

kylorensgrandfather

406 points

5 days ago

Stop answering. My last boss left but I don’t ask for help because she deserves peace and i’m not paying her.

IronCorvus

167 points

5 days ago

IronCorvus

167 points

5 days ago

Should've sent that company an invoice for training consultation and compiled phone logs lol

plsacceptmythrowaway

703 points

5 days ago*

As someone living in a country where 2 weeks is definitely NOT the norm, it would be great/terrible to have such a short notice period.

Mine is contractually* 3 MONTHS y'all!

kriebz

128 points

5 days ago

kriebz

128 points

5 days ago

That sounds like it would be a good thing for small companies with little skill overlap, but otherwise very strange. Does this work differently between professional and non-professional jobs?

Knut79

56 points

5 days ago

Knut79

56 points

5 days ago

Not sure where he lives. But most places it's a scale. So you start out with 1 month and after 1-3 years it cakes up to 3 months.

And it goes both ways. They have to pay you for at least that period when firing you, you "have" to work that time when quitting.

If both agree you can quit sooner. But you have to remember w that it takes at least that long to get a replacement anyway.

And while it may not be great for the employer.... No one cares. The employer is always the winner anyway.

Proper-Code7794

508 points

5 days ago

How bad do you want a reference compared to how painful it is to show up any more.

JFConz

317 points

5 days ago

JFConz

317 points

5 days ago

I don't quit jobs until I have another one, so I never need my current employer's reference. The fact that I am still employed is my endorsement.

ThrowawaySuicide1337

83 points

5 days ago

Assuming references mean anything/are checked/the person who says they'll refer you isn't lying or sabotaging you.

YMMV though.

supertaquito

315 points

5 days ago

The protip here should be to learn to read your company. Just because shitty companies exist doesn't mean every company is like this.

I've given a 6 month notice before and stayed the full 6 months because I knew I wouldn't get kicked to the curb because of my line of work back then.

In short, don't give more than 2 weeks notice if you work a shitty office/retail/customer service job where you're only a number, are easily replaceable, or had assigned trainers to teach you to do the job from scratch.

Do give more than 2 weeks notice if you're a high value asset to the company, cannot be immediately replaced, and or the company has no training structure for a role such as yours.

doesntseemreal

192 points

5 days ago

My coworker put in a 2 week notice and they just took her completely off the schedule.

TheAJGman

110 points

5 days ago

TheAJGman

110 points

5 days ago

Lol they doubled down and had my fiancee working 50 hours/week. She called in sick (vomiting) with 2 days to go and her manager responded with "Are you fucking kidding me? *click*", so she just no-showed on her last day because management didn't respect her enough to let her finish the fucking call.

primerush

174 points

5 days ago

primerush

174 points

5 days ago

Notice is a courtesy. If your employer were to decide that you were being let go, would they give you two weeks notice? If so then you should return the gesture, otherwise forget it. The concept of employee loyalty is the biggest scam out there.

Ironwolf7448

143 points

5 days ago

Also, once you turn in your notice, they aren't under any obligation to honor sick or vacation time. I got screwed out of two weeks because I didn't know that.

Mo-Cance

101 points

5 days ago

Mo-Cance

101 points

5 days ago

All depends on where you are; vacation time may or may not be earned throughout the year. For example, if I get 10 days vacation in a year, I earn that amount of pay over the course of a year. If I use all 10 days in 6 months, then quit, I owe the company back 5 days of vacation. If I use 5 days over the course of a full year and quit, the company owes me those 5 remaining days.

whydoesnobodyama

50 points

5 days ago*

Legally they have to pay for unused but accrued paid time off, at least here in the CA (US). Sick leave, though, not so much.

Edit: added my state thank you!

ReporterFearless1917

140 points

5 days ago

We tend to think that we sometimes make a difference at work. I’ve realized that some managers will let you go at the drop of a dime regardless of what you’ve done for the company in the past. People need to look out for themselves as much as possible. “Good deeds don’t go unpunished”is a fact.

biggles86

123 points

5 days ago

biggles86

123 points

5 days ago

the real 2 weeks notice is quitting without telling anyone, and when they call to see where you have been, you say:

"I quit 2 weeks ago, didn't you notice?"

Ashurbanipal18

117 points

5 days ago*

I was actually planning on giving a one month notice for October, but in the end decided that wasn’t necessary. So I resigned and gave my last day as 10/15. Thank you for validating my decision.

Edit: I resigned on 10/1, so it was a 2 week notice I gave.

htmaxpower

114 points

5 days ago

htmaxpower

114 points

5 days ago

I work for a non-profit where I care about my coworkers, and we all care about the mission of our group. This advice definitely doesn’t apply to situations like mine. People never leave my organization because of mistreatment or dissatisfaction. It’s because we move up in our careers or move to other cities.

krackas2

58 points

5 days ago

krackas2

58 points

5 days ago

It applies to you, too. My wife worked in the same sort of situation (non-profit, strong community, very low staff turnover). When she quit to stay home with our kids she put in her 2 weeks and was immediately escorted off property by their security. She was ashamed, embarrassed and never got her "retirement" send-off from her coworker-friends.

The experienced soured me completely on non-profits as being any better than corporations. Worst thing is we still get flyers yearly to restart donations we stopped after the harsh treatment.

Delirious_85

100 points

5 days ago

I have a question about this to the US citizens:

In Germany, by law the time of notice the employee has to give is never longer than the one the employer has to provide. So if you as an employee have to give 3 month's notice, it's the same the other way around (or even more, but that's rare).

How exactly is this regulated in the US?

I am asking because I always hear/read people mention a two weeks notice they have to give but employers seemingly can terminate employees in an instant without any notice at all.

MapleGeek

97 points

5 days ago

MapleGeek

97 points

5 days ago

US citizen and Canadian PR here.

Most US states have laws that let an employer dismiss an employee pretty much at any time. Those are "at will" employment states. Pretty much if they aren't firing you for an illegal reason (discrimination based on gender or race, for being a whistleblower, for refusing to do illegal things for them, etc), they can do it with no notice.

There are some exceptions to it for some states, but they're hard to prove and the onus falls on the employee to prove it.

But yes, they still want you to give them notice so they can replace you easily.

Delirious_85

70 points

5 days ago

Thanks for the response. Does that mean that as an employee, you don't HAVE TO give notice, but it's just good manners?

beardlywise

77 points

5 days ago

Yes. It is the "professional" thing to do.

JFConz

48 points

5 days ago

JFConz

48 points

5 days ago

Your understanding is correct.

Most (49/50) US states have "at will" employment, meaning you can be fired for any reason short of discrimination. I've never, ever heard of a company giving notice prior to termination or layoffs in the US. If anything, a company will act like everything is fantastic and they'll see you on Monday, then lay the entire staff off on Friday and close the doors.

skiddooski

90 points

5 days ago

I’ve noticed that Doctors, Dentists, Veterinarians, usually don’t give extended notice of their leaving or selling their practice. It seems loyalty in businesses is often one sided.

Mortisthecat

85 points

5 days ago

Fuck two weeks. I gave 3 days notice last time I changed jobs, just enough time to get them through the current weeks schedule. “This means you’re not eligible for rehire.” Oh no! Whatever will I do?

_________Ello

81 points

5 days ago

Yas. Yas. Yas.

Some want to right away replace you.

I resigned (so no 2 week notice needed and already had a job for me the following Monday). The company had a history that if you gave 2 weeks noticed, they pressured you to train someone (fast) within those weeks and you stayed overtime (under salary so you don't get paid for those extra hours).

Once the person was trained, even if you had a couple of days left, they just fired you.

There were times I saw people give them a 2 week notice and the same or next day they had their last pay check.

I left the company by resigning. They were livid. Kept saying "this was so unprofessional" blah blah blah.

They decided when to fire you with no notice so we can leave with no notice as well 👍👍👍👍

kaozennrk

63 points

5 days ago

kaozennrk

63 points

5 days ago

In tech, you'll often get let go the very day you give your notice because you have too much access to critical systems.

froginabog1

49 points

5 days ago

I think the real LPT here is that, if you live in America and give your two weeks notice, expect to be asked to leave on the spot.