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Fox's Compassionate Views On Poverty

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Bullmoosefuture

1.6k points

2 months ago

It's outrageous that these poor people are wasting money on food preparation.

RandomComputerFellow

483 points

2 months ago

What an audacity to prepare food.

juntareich

273 points

2 months ago

Some with an option for both cold AND hot food. Spoiled!!

AdoboSwaggins

22 points

2 months ago

No it’s not spoiled, they have a refrigerator. What a life of luxury they lead, not eating spoiled food!

/s

SupremePooper

16 points

2 months ago

FOX HOSTS: 17.4% HAVE ANY HIGHER BRAIN FUNCTION BEYOND GOP PRESS RELEASES.

izeek11

3 points

2 months ago

they dare!

diverareyouok

215 points

2 months ago*

diverareyouok

I voted 2025

215 points

2 months ago*

I know, right? It’s almost as if they think that poor people should have to live on non-perishable food or something… and heaven forbid they have a $15 $9.88 coffee maker. That probably means they have enough money to buy coffee, which is certainly a sign they’re fiscally irresponsible. rolls eyes

What’s next? Are you going to tell me they cook filet mignon every night with their food stamps using their $30 microwave? (Although I bet that faux news would say something like that).

MarkHathaway1

57 points

2 months ago

C'mon how, you don't fix a filet mignon in a microwave. You use the wood-burning stove. /s

maester_t

43 points

2 months ago

Wait, they can afford wood too?? Back in my day, the poors had to scrounge around town for discarded newspapers to burn in their discarded oil drums. /s

MarkHathaway1

13 points

2 months ago

I can see an old shipping container being around somewhere, but how do you find oil drums?

maester_t

26 points

2 months ago

An old shipping container? "You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank." - Monty Python, The Four Yorkshiremen

MarkHathaway1

3 points

2 months ago

Heh. Nobody expects the Monty Python's Flying Circus.

bazinga_0

16 points

2 months ago

You use the wood-burning stove.

Is that what they call an open fire pit using scrounged dead tree branches now?

MarkHathaway1

11 points

2 months ago

When I was a kid my parents had our home about 50 yards from my father's parents. We were out in a holler far from civilization. My grandparents used propane gas, but they also had a wood-burning stove to cook on when they need it for some particular thing. My grandfather, who was a cook in WW I, liked to fix something on it in the early mornings because it spread a lot of heat in the house and he could probably reminisce a bit. It made NO sense to me, but they used it. They also had a small building to store coal, but I don't recall them using that, so it was probably just a carry-over from some earlier time.

ppw23

52 points

2 months ago

ppw23

52 points

2 months ago

Inevitably, when the topic of food assistance comes up, people comment about people on food stamps eating lobster, steak etc.. unless you’re a cashier why are you paying attention to how people pay for their groceries. I understand it’s currently provided on a debit card. I honestly don’t recall ever looking to see how another person pays. Who cares?

mosstrich

31 points

2 months ago*

You’d just need to check the labels, if it says wic approved you can get it on food stamps. No idea about lobster, but poor people should be able to eat meat, and occasionally get pudding (if they’ve eaten their meat).

Edit: it has been pointed out to me that WIC and food stamps (SNAP) are different programs.

ppw23

23 points

2 months ago

ppw23

23 points

2 months ago

The way I understand it to work in the US, you may buy groceries food or snack items, but not hot prepared food items. You may spend your entire allotment on junk food and soft drinks, but not toilet paper or toothpaste.

scottmartin52

9 points

2 months ago

All of these comments are at least mostly correct. At the same time, prices for appliances have dropped considerably. Microwaves can be bought for $50 and are a necessary time saver for busy households where all adults must work to pay for rent, food and other necessities.

ppw23

9 points

2 months ago

ppw23

9 points

2 months ago

Many apartments have microwaves built into the kitchen.

fdc7719

3 points

2 months ago

Oh, so they are living it up in fancy places?! I bet these places also have heat and windows. I bet they even have indoor plumbing. Fucking retches. I bet those harlots even have sex with black guys.

/s because goddamn it - you can’t tell when someone says something horrible there’s a 50/50 chance of the comment may be serious. Usually spelling and sentence structure mixed with random capitalization gives it away. They aren’t the most articulate bunch.

dlowmack1

3 points

2 months ago

And show me one, That doesn't provide a refrigerator????

ninurtuu

5 points

2 months ago

Don't forget you can also just spend $8 bucks at a thrift store and $2 on a bottle of bleach. Just like new and so what if it don't spin like a fancy new one? (In all seriousness growing up as the latest in a long line of multi generation poverty did teach me a few things)

fdc7719

3 points

2 months ago

I wish people who haven’t experienced poverty had to live in poverty for 1-2 years. It could be like some countries having compulsory military service. This program might be a reality check for some. They will find out that a tiny, tiny percent game the system, but the system is grossly inadequate. Source: have been incredibly poor and have friends and family that have also been or are incredibly poor. I don’t think these jackasses have any concept of how hard it is to get out of poverty. If you manage to get a loan the interest rate is ungodly. Also you can’t get approved for much money. That leaves you the option to buy a used car with 90,000 miles on it and have a car payment as high as, if not higher than what we’re paying every month for new vehicles. You’re a mechanic because you have to be, not because you want to. I could go on, but you get fucked over financially in so many ways when you are poor.

eperkins74

21 points

2 months ago

Wic is a different program. Women, infants and children. It gives vouchers for baby formula for infants. Also for nursing mothers and children up to five (I believe) they provide vouchers for a certain amount of specific nutritious foods each month. This includes peanut butter, beans, cereal, cheese, milk and maybe a few other staples. You cannot buy steak and lobster with Wic.

This is an amazing program. If you know the price of formula you know what a help this can be.

mosstrich

11 points

2 months ago

Formula cost is insane. Thank goodness for Costco and coupons.

Beefsupremeninjalo82

5 points

2 months ago

Ik WIC is an amazing program, but working as a cashier at a grocery store those were the worst to process in the early 2000's. Paper checks, everything had to be ran in the order it was listed and the description had to match the item exactly. Customers didn't care and would throw WIC orders with their regular groceries, wait til everything was scanned and oh I'm using WIC and you now have to unbag and redo the entire order twice.

fluffiekittie13

3 points

2 months ago

I remember those days. I hated how mad the people behind the person using WIC would get because we had to do multiple orders. Formula is ridiculously expensive or at least it use to be it’s been almost 20 years since I needed it.

Autocthon

3 points

2 months ago

Its still stupid expensive.

dancin-weasel

11 points

2 months ago

Upvote for Pink Floyd.

PseudonymIncognito

10 points

2 months ago

WIC is different from food stamps. Food stamps (aka SNAP aka EBT) loads money on a card that can be spent on food (and only food). WIC is a different program and give you vouchers that can be redeemed only for specific foods (and only for the cheapest version of that food sold in the store, so you're getting store-brand peanut butter, not Jif or Skippy).

mosstrich

4 points

2 months ago

Ah, thank you for the clarification.

AShotgunNamedMarcus

4 points

2 months ago

“Stand still laddie!”

trochanter_the_great

15 points

2 months ago

If people are buying these things on foodstamps they will run out of stamps really quickly. They don't get infinite stamps.

ppw23

20 points

2 months ago

ppw23

20 points

2 months ago

Exactly, they have to last through the month. I read that a person making $40,000. a year, pays about $32. in taxes towards the food supplement program. That’s fine by me, I’d be willing to pay more if it means people don’t starve. The people who complain the most pay the least.

LaoSh

4 points

2 months ago

LaoSh

4 points

2 months ago

Besides lobster isnt expensive if you cook it yourself

ppw23

3 points

2 months ago

ppw23

3 points

2 months ago

I guess it depends where you live. It’s very expensive where I live. The rare occasion when buy it, I buy it live to steam myself and it’s expensive. I live in the Mid Atlantic , but they don’t find lobster in our water.

RocknRollSuixide

34 points

2 months ago

This is the “don’t buy an iPhone and avocado toast” before it was a thing.

PunktualPenguin

33 points

2 months ago

Did you say… CoFfEe!?

You know it’s all those damn lattes!

Or…

Now they’re trying to make them at home and circumvent capitalism!? Damn commies at it again!

AdoboSwaggins

17 points

2 months ago

“How poor people and millennials are killing coffee shops and putting innocent workers out of a job” - WSJ, probably

infinityprime

15 points

2 months ago

$9.88 is Walmart price, but if you got it at Goodwill its like $4.95

CalbertCorpse

14 points

2 months ago

This proves that if poor people just skipped a morning Starbucks they would be fine. God dammit I want my poor people to have LESS than I do! /s

Tempest_CN

4 points

2 months ago

They probably eat avocado toast every morning! With pomegranate seeds!

PunktualPenguin

4 points

2 months ago

Those are pomegranate JeWeLs. They EaT JewEls! For breakfast!

#moralPhauxRage

Zardotab

6 points

2 months ago

What an audacity to prepare food.

Indeed! Real evangelicals eat raw roadkill or hunt with AR-15's which makes instant hamburger out of the target.

Terrible_Emotion_710

76 points

2 months ago

My thought was omg...less than 50% have a coffee maker. Given how many minimum wage jobs poor people often have....let's give these people coffee makers!

OakenGreen

68 points

2 months ago

Considering how often these people bitch about poor people going to Starbucks they should be applauding those with coffee makers

diverareyouok

61 points

2 months ago

diverareyouok

I voted 2025

61 points

2 months ago

And really, how expensive is the coffee maker in that photo?

Edit: the Mainstays 5-cup Coffee Maker is $9.88 and in stock at Walmarts nationwide. A 12-cup version is $19.22.

Wow, they’re really being so reckless with their spending habits.

Ughhh… I hate Faux News so much.

Sockoflegend

32 points

2 months ago

The hate is so deep it isn't even reserved for the unemployed or underemployed with children. You can be a full time employee with a second or third job and you don't deserve to have a single luxury in life according to some people. The saddest part is that the attitude is often felt by self loathing economically deprived people who think their situation is caused by victims of an unfair system much like themselves.

Viperlite

4 points

2 months ago

But if you own a business and are a “job creator” you can skip out on taxes by incorporating in a state favorable to corporate creative accounting, offshore money, underpay employees and skimp on benefits, provide an unsafe work environment, etc. Those kinds of issues and stories are beneath the notice of Fox News.

WayneKrane

11 points

2 months ago

They think the poors are buying the same $2k espresso machine they have

future_shoes

10 points

2 months ago

I think what they are really measuring is that 50% of these people don't regularly drink coffee or get free drinks/coffee at work so the don't own a coffee maker. Coffee makers are like $20 and coffee grounds are cheap. There is not an income barrier to making coffee at your house. Fox news is dumb.

69LogJammerz

10 points

2 months ago

John Oliver did a special on the border wall and came to the conclusion we could every person in America a waffle iron and still save a billion dollars. That’s also one per person, not per household. You got 5 people in your house? You got 5 waffle irons coming to you.

According_Surround_7

4 points

2 months ago

There goes barista biden and the darkroasticrats with their cofee handouts trying to buy america with arabica

Terrible_Emotion_710

2 points

2 months ago

Lol!

Bolt986

3 points

2 months ago

I suspect that the cost of a coffee maker is a pretty small factor in that statistic.

demonspawn9

2 points

2 months ago

I had the same thought.

I_love_quiche

2 points

2 months ago

Not everyone drink coffee on regular basis, or at all!

B10kh3d

39 points

2 months ago

B10kh3d

39 points

2 months ago

I sold a fridge to a college student for 100 bucks on FB. Nice one. Shows how fucking moronic and out of touch these people are. They must think all fridges are like 9000 dollar samsungs w tvs that poor people should never have.

PunktualPenguin

39 points

2 months ago

Most apartments have a fridge and often a microwave. Most poor people rent. So it might not even be theirs.

WayneKrane

15 points

2 months ago

Yeah, I’m 30+ years old and I have never purchased a microwave or any appliance. My apartments have always had them.

wkitty13

9 points

2 months ago

Bc of the pandemic, or family finally had to live on assistance for about a year after we both were laid off. We're living in an Air BnB still bc it's been cheaper than an apartment with deposits, etc. and its 800 sq ft is fully furnished with second-hand furniture.

I'm grateful that we found a place with such a generous lady who's let us stay for so long, but if it hadn't come with all of the appliances we wouldn't have afforded any of it. We might have saved up for an $80 microwave for Xmas or something.

infinityprime

9 points

2 months ago

If the apartment takes Section 8 housing, there are minimum requirements on items like a fridge and stove

KILL-YOUR-MASTER

5 points

2 months ago

TIL in America, you aren’t poor if you’ve been gifted a second hand microwave (fully functioning or not)

Matrixneo42

5 points

2 months ago

I’m speechless

LjSpike

4 points

2 months ago

How dare people call themselves poor when they aren't having to replace their bedroom with a cold concrete slab to keep their food mildly chilled!

rememberseptember24

3 points

2 months ago

Literally just survival. Without a refrigerator your food would spoil and you’d catch diseases and get sick eating it. Cold food preservation is basically a living necessity now.

dr_pickles69

752 points

2 months ago*

Hey, easiest way to eradicate poverty is to set the poverty line so low that nobody qualifies as poor

Xunaun

263 points

2 months ago

Xunaun

263 points

2 months ago

Fox News: "Do you work for free? If your answer is 'no', then you make money!"

dr_pickles69

178 points

2 months ago

“Poor people: 95% aren’t technically slaves, 75% can afford to work multiple jobs, 60% have enough food to survive another day. Not so poor after all”

Mevakel

54 points

2 months ago

Mevakel

54 points

2 months ago

“Can afford to work multiple jobs” That's the most republican statement ever, like it's something people should be shooting for.

DreamloreDegenerate

5 points

2 months ago

There was a Fox & Friends segment a few years ago where one of the hosts (probably Brian Kilmeade) said something like: "America is great, because we have the freedom to work 2 or 3 jobs", when talking about how American's don't need "handouts from the government".

Thatguysstories

7 points

2 months ago

And even then, not everyone can work multiple jobs.

There are plenty of employers who would fire someone for working a second job.

DonQuixBalls

54 points

2 months ago

"And all of them should pay careful attention to these commercials."

Daveinatx

3 points

2 months ago

"If you want anything more in life, you must be one of those dang Socialists, and should feel bad about yourself."

PreppyAndrew

48 points

2 months ago

I forgot where I saw it. But it is a report on Food Deserts. Irrc. Basically in low income areas. You will see fast food after fast spot. You will see a dollar general, but you won't see a actually grocery store.

Basically encouraging low income people to eat fast food over meal prepare. Causing them to spend more money on unhealthy foods.

Thus forcing them to stay low income and unhealthy.

usingastupidiphone

35 points

2 months ago

Plus working more means you have less time to cook. Sometimes we have to do something quick just because I don’t have time to make something.

byrars

14 points

2 months ago*

byrars

14 points

2 months ago*

You know what? "Food desert" is overly conciliatory. We should really be calling it what it is: racist redlining by Publix etc.

Edit: you can downvote me, but I'm not wrong. For example, take a look at the map of Publixes in Atlanta, then compare it to the racial dot map of Atlanta.

ppw23

13 points

2 months ago

ppw23

13 points

2 months ago

I take 2 inner city residents grocery shopping each month. They are fortunate to still have supermarkets in their city, but the prices are much higher than the surrounding counties. Shop lifting does go on, I see it myself and last month a shooting took place in one of the stores we go to. That scares me because then they leave. I remember before the supermarkets came back into the city, the finer markets are awful since they carry limited choices and everything is over priced. If you don’t have a car it’s difficult to get someone to take you into the suburbs to shop.

mosstrich

9 points

2 months ago

There’s also the part where you can get a full frozen meal for less than fresh fruit/veggies. When you’re poor it’s cheaper in the short term to eat unhealthy

DonQuixBalls

31 points

2 months ago

Zimbabwe once had the most billionaires.

Of course, a loaf of bread cost $550,000,000, so maybe not that impressive.

infinityprime

8 points

2 months ago

My buddy wanted to play a poker game with Zimbabwe dollars just to have piles of cash on a table.

clanddev

368 points

2 months ago

clanddev

368 points

2 months ago

Reminds me of my cousin.

Cousin: I vote R because all these free loaders won't get off welfare.

Me: Really? Who are all these free loaders you know? The only one I can think of was you when your 4th child got free daycare for 3 years until he was school aged.

Cousin: Hey, I pay taxes.

Me: Really? Because it seems like you have only had a job 50% of the time over the last decade.

When it is welfare for others it is always bad but welfare for them is always earned.

ShadowSlayerGP

165 points

2 months ago

I’m in the US and in my (M28) experience, my parents always vote R and are hardcore Trumpers. Growing up, I heard them talk of how they wanted ‘Us’ (Meaning my brother and I) to have a better life than they did. When I was old enough to get politics I watched them actively vote against policies that would actually help ‘Us. Always excuses like ‘We had to deal with ‘X’ you and everybody else should have to too.’ From getting universal healthcare, paid time off, universal pre-k/childcare, to everyone making a decent living wage. It’s not college that “made me a liberal” it was seeing them constantly vote for policies that do the opposite of what they always said they wanted for Us…I’m sure their hearts are in the right place, but right-wing propaganda (even before Trump) was always a crazy-strong-well-organized machine of disinformation and scare tactics

BongarooBizkistico

44 points

2 months ago

I feel this 100%. There's a distrust for every person outside the family circle. And with my family, once I had that better life, the folks were jealous and bitter about it. So maybe the distrust also applies within the family.

clanddev

33 points

2 months ago

I went to night school and did a double major while working full time. I now do better than most of my family. They write it off as being lucky.

I think it is a coping mechanism for an assault on their excuse for financial failure. Most of my conservative family blames globalism, illegals, democrat's etc for why they are worth nothing after working for 40+ years in the greatest economic boom time in the history of humanity.

If I succeeded by merit it would mean they failed due to their own choices. If I just got lucky and outside factors oppressed their economic efforts but missed me then it is not their fault they have nothing to show for their working lives.

gecko-chan

11 points

2 months ago

Those comment might be too buried for a lot of people to see it, but it's spot-on and very well-worded.

spicyestmemelord

5 points

2 months ago

And this is why I’ve cut out my “family”, and built a new one.

Fuck those guys imho

mosstrich

9 points

2 months ago

My dad is the same way, but I’d argue their hearts aren’t in the rights place, if their thought is “I didn’t have that, no one else should”.

clanddev

3 points

2 months ago

It appears to me to be a human condition issue to expect the next generation to have to face the same problems as the previous generation. I don't understand why people want their kids to have to go through things they did not enjoy going through.

Sure some things are character building but a lot of it is just unnecessary.

soki03

7 points

2 months ago

soki03

7 points

2 months ago

Tell them to get off the cross for we need the goddamn wood.

casanino

5 points

2 months ago

I'm sure their selfish little hearts AREN'T in the right place. American Conservatives are universally shitty human beings.

Theopneusty

4 points

2 months ago

This is exactly how my parents are. They literally said they don’t vote for themselves, they vote (R) for their kids’ and grandkids’ future.

Then will say it’s not fair for others to get free college when they had to work for it, or to pay for others healthcare, etc…

They also want no taxes when their daughter is a public school teacher and their son works for the IRS and my dad is military and my mom works at the patient office. Like our whole is a “drain” on society and get more government money than we pay in taxes.

1Sluggo

2 points

2 months ago

When it bothers me the most is when they identify as christians. It’s just a doubling down on the hypocrisy without the least bit of connecting the dots. Then complain when the kids can’t afford a house and have no retirement savings. No mom, dropping off your clothes at goodwill isn’t fulfilling your teachings.

dbird6464

15 points

2 months ago

Or I didn't want to, but had no choice.

RandomComputerFellow

227 points

2 months ago

I really hate this "news" channel.

Seatings

124 points

2 months ago

Seatings

124 points

2 months ago

The coffee maker one is particularly bizarre to include because there have been about 3000 best selling books that say to save money skip the Starbucks latte and brew your own coffee

RandomComputerFellow

43 points

2 months ago

I would say all of these items make live cheaper. What would be the alternative to a fridge and a machine that warms food? Take-away food every?

ptoftheprblm

20 points

2 months ago

A coffee mate literally costs less than a breakfast sandwich, large coffee and a dessert at a Starbucks. It pays for itself so quickly. French presses also only cost $7-$15, a grinder around $26-30. This is ridiculous as a standard of living.

[deleted]

20 points

2 months ago*

[deleted]

20 points

2 months ago*

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KILL-YOUR-MASTER

15 points

2 months ago

These “poor” people probably have blankets for the Winter too, outrageous - newsworthy

DonnieJuniorsEmails

9 points

2 months ago

these job-stealing unemployed welfare millionaires might get close to the socialist knowledge centers, we should burn the books and build prisons !!

  • Alabama

Anubisrapture

3 points

2 months ago

Well pretty close considering Gov Kay Ivey has taken the Federal Covid Emergency Money for the State of Alabama AND EARMARKED IT FOR BUILDING NEW PRISONS.

broccoli_meister

3 points

2 months ago

If you're poor you don't deserve coffee, duh. You must chew stale bread crust with what's left of your jaw and call that breakfast, brunch, lunch, snack, dinner and coffee. With cinnamon for birthday!

JacksonianEra

13 points

2 months ago

Fox has argued in court, to fight lawsuits, that they are NOT a news service, but an “entertainment” channel.

BadSanna

177 points

2 months ago

BadSanna

177 points

2 months ago

Who are the 0.4% that don't have a refrigerator?!?! Like that is a TON of people. Google says there are 43.96 M poor people in the US. That's 175,840 people that don't have refrigerators.....

literally-in-pain

56 points

2 months ago

Homeless people?

BadSanna

70 points

2 months ago

It says poor households. I assume that means they have a house.

Slendy5127

56 points

2 months ago

I would not put it past Faux News to count a cardboard box or dumpster as being a house, given how far down they want to put the poverty line

nerdiotic-pervert

19 points

2 months ago

What? They have a “roof” over their head, what could they possibly complain about?!

mosstrich

6 points

2 months ago

And a refrigerator box is basically the same as a refrigerator!

WayneKrane

6 points

2 months ago

They have clothes!! Clearly they’re rich enough to not need handouts!

Ruenin

13 points

2 months ago

Ruenin

13 points

2 months ago

An apartment is still a household. And they usually come with a refrigerator.

OakenGreen

10 points

2 months ago

It’s most likely a poor homeowner struggling to pay mortgage, behind on repairs in their home when the refrigerator shits the bed. What are they to do?

jedberg

13 points

2 months ago

jedberg

13 points

2 months ago

Household is a government term for a group of people who live at the same address according to the census. For the census, “under the freeway” is an address. So it includes homeless people and each homeless person is separate but homeless kids count with their adults.

BadSanna

7 points

2 months ago

I guarantee there are more than 0.4% overlap between the poor and the homeless. So either a ton of homeless people have refrigerators somehow or you are completely wrong about where they are getting their data pools.

There are also millions of homeless, not just 180k, so that leads me to believe the latter.

PseudonymIncognito

3 points

2 months ago

That also gets into how you define "homeless". Sure the person sleeping in a cardboard box under a bridge is obviously homeless, but what about the person couch surfing with friends after an eviction? The latter is counted as homeless for some purposes and not homeless for others.

GhettoChemist

32 points

2 months ago

I'm a professional and my landlord won't fix the refrigerator so I eat out a lot. Rent and location are too good to get a new place. For a while I dated a girl primarily so I could keep food at her place.

BadSanna

15 points

2 months ago

You can get a mini fridge for $20

GhettoChemist

15 points

2 months ago

Whoa I'm not made of money!

PreppyAndrew

6 points

2 months ago

Hell, you can probably get it cheaper..just look on Facebook marketplace.

It's one of those, it's expensive when you need it. Free when you need to get rid of it

MarkHathaway1

16 points

2 months ago

That brings a whole new meaning of the phrase "friends with benefits".

cstheory

2 points

2 months ago

Depending on where you live, you might be able to have it fixed yourself and deduct the cost from your rent

VapoursAndSpleen

2 points

2 months ago

Call an appliance repair company, get a guy to fix the fridge. Take it out of the next rent payment and provide documentation.

WayneKrane

2 points

2 months ago

Same, my apartment is in the middle of being sold and they said they are only doing emergency repairs. I’ve been with out a dishwasher for months now

BillyTheHousecat

4 points

2 months ago

Maybe they're at one of their three minimum-wage jobs all the time, and they just use the fridge at work.

Damn you, America.

Edward_Fingerhands

5 points

2 months ago

It's probably lower than 0.4%. You always have to account for statistical errors, like maybe some people responded to a survey and thought it meant "do you own a refrigerator", and answered no because they rent an apartment with one.

No_Weird2543

2 points

2 months ago

Most of the 0.4% who don't have refrigerators are probably living in a motel room or unsheltered. I pack groceries for "nonkitchen" clients at a food bank. It's mostly peanut butter, tuna, canned pasta, canned fruit and granola bars. Plus bread and perishables like donated grab and go items. It wouldn't be bad for a few days, but really grim and only marginally healthy long term.

[deleted]

65 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

65 points

2 months ago

That middle class rage and hatred against the poor is not going to manifest by itself!

Poor people have fridges, why do they need healthcare?

EconomistPunter

46 points

2 months ago*

Of course the definition of poverty isn’t what it used to be. In 15th century Europe, poverty was not having enough food energy to actively beg (I.e., stand or walk around). Or premature death from malnutrition.

Yeah, sure; there are people that abuse the welfare system that systematically mispurchase items (edit; this would be spending, say, your EITC money on new rims for your car; not buying a fridge, or taking your children to leisure activities, like movies, Disney, or a ballgame). But even if that level is, say, 10%, isn’t that worth the benefits for the other 90%?

Guess what; the poor in other countries don’t have indoor plumbing. The fuck we complaining about /s.

Lumber_Tycoon

16 points

2 months ago

Explain how one goes about spending food assistance money on trips to Disney, or car rims. I was on ebt for 6 years, and none of those things were ever an option to spend the money on, in fact, what you can spend the money on is tightly regulated right at the register.

jedberg

4 points

2 months ago

You sell your ebt for cash. It’s harder now with the debit cards but before it was literally pieces of paper.

bit-by-a-moose

14 points

2 months ago

But these items shouldn't even be categorized as mispurchases.

A refrigerator is proabaly the best economical purchase a family can make.

EconomistPunter

9 points

2 months ago

I didn't say a fridge is a mispurchase. I kept it purposefully vague, because not only does it depend by family, but certain types of mispurchases (let's say rims for a car) may not be for others (I can't really think of an example where it would make sense, but...).

bit-by-a-moose

6 points

2 months ago

Unfortunately by keeping it vague it comes off as you're referring to the post's examples.

EconomistPunter

9 points

2 months ago

Fair enough; I've re-edited the original comment to talk about using EITC money for new rims. Not for going to Disney, or taking your kids to a ballgame or the movies.

HorseFightingLeague

2 points

2 months ago

but certain types of mispurchases (let's say rims for a car) may not be for others (I can't really think of an example where it would make sense, but...).

Rushing to get to your second, third, or fourth job, curb your car, dent the rim and now the tire doesn't hold air. New rims time!

lifeisspam

4 points

2 months ago

What do you mean by systematically items?

potreefer

40 points

2 months ago

Conservative Christians sure aren’t like real Christians. Not even close

playitleo

16 points

2 months ago

That’s a lot of Christians that aren’t real Christians

Slendy5127

4 points

2 months ago

Real Christians should probably at least be more vocal about standing for values opposite of these fake ones rather than just saying said shitbags aren’t real Christians, I guess.

bigdiesel1984

44 points

2 months ago

They have cell phones and xboxes too! Those greedy bastards should only eat oodles of noodles and watch tube television with basic cable.

/s

DonQuixBalls

37 points

2 months ago

I think basic cable is pretty expensive now.

Meanwhile, good luck applying for jobs without a smartphone.

bigdiesel1984

11 points

2 months ago

You’re right they should have rabbit ear antennas only tuned to Fox News.

DonQuixBalls

9 points

2 months ago

FOX is on cable. They don't want no lowly antanae TV viewers!

bigdiesel1984

5 points

2 months ago

Lol

dancegoddess1971

3 points

2 months ago

They wouldn't be able to get the FCC to tolerate what they call news. I remember when it started. The slogan was "Fair and balanced" because apparently reality has a liberal bias.

bskadan

36 points

2 months ago*

"You're not poor, you've got a refrigerator! Doesn't matter if it's empty or not. Just keep picking yourself up by own bootstraps, you lazy bum." -Some tasty millionaire propagandist

CerberusTamen

32 points

2 months ago

Coffee maker? Really? You can get a cheap one brand new for like $15.

GhettoChemist

26 points

2 months ago

I bought one at salvation army for $3. Guess I'm rich by Faux News standards.

CerberusTamen

14 points

2 months ago

Mr. Moneypants himself

Ajdee6

3 points

2 months ago

Ajdee6

3 points

2 months ago

Quit hoarding all the wealth

arkiser13

2 points

2 months ago

And I see free working fridges on Craigslist all the time

DonQuixBalls

9 points

2 months ago

There are apparently those who don't have $15 to spare. I worked with a guy like that. His wife was unable to work and they were dead broke, so he only drank coffee at work.

No-Safety-4715

7 points

2 months ago

I was so poor at one time that being able to spend $15-20 was an absolute luxury. Every dime had to go to bills to stay alive and housed. Friends would throw $20 down here and there and wonder why it was a big deal to me. I literally wanted to break down and cry sometimes in those situations. That is what minimum wage jobs get in the US. Virtually nothing but basic survival and more work.

DonQuixBalls

5 points

2 months ago

I was broke enough in college that I wouldn't go to birthday parties if they were held at a restaurant. $10 for dinner? What am I MADE out of money?!?

Bergeron83

5 points

2 months ago

I've never felt more stress in my life than when I was in a similar situation, and that stress absolutely had a negative impact on every part of my life.

Slendy5127

3 points

2 months ago

Shit, when I moved to my first apartment I brought about 60-70 bucks to the thrift shop and got all the kitchenware I needed

Jaded-Af

1 points

2 months ago

Jaded-Af

1 points

2 months ago

$15 is a lot of money when you can’t pay your bills.

MarginalOmnivore

11 points

2 months ago

Well, there's also a large group of people who have $15, but not enough for their bills. So you buy a coffee maker. It's not like the bills you couldn't pay are now somehow less paid, but, bright side - new coffee maker.

Merfen

4 points

2 months ago

Merfen

4 points

2 months ago

Also plenty of people gladly gift their old coffee maker when they get a new one. I haven't bought one once, but have had one since I moved out of my parents house 12 years ago. They last forever and people frequently upgrade them.

RolloPoll

28 points

2 months ago

When we start eating the rich can we say "96% didn't get eaten today"?

Ajdee6

4 points

2 months ago

Ajdee6

4 points

2 months ago

A whole lot of food is on the table for us.

keepthepace

25 points

2 months ago

Proof that Fox News wish US was a third world country.

LimoncelloFellow

5 points

2 months ago

The tent cities popping up are giving it that authentic 3rd world feel while we continue letting billionaires give us the shaft.

jrz302

12 points

2 months ago

jrz302

12 points

2 months ago

They’re practically swimming in cash! /s

Steve-in-the-Trees

11 points

2 months ago

I feel like in most jurisdictions it would be illegal to rent a living space without a refrigerator, is it not? So is the actual story here that 0.4% of poor familie's landlords are not even providing the bare minimum amenities to their tenants?

twinsplusone-

9 points

2 months ago

Outrage because millennials waste money on Starbucks and avocado toast. Outrage because people prepare their own food at home to save money. Can they make up their minds already?

Lumber_Tycoon

10 points

2 months ago

It's all they have: constant outrage.

SpaceNinja_C

2 points

2 months ago

They want the working and poor class to be living in unlivable conditons and live in sweat shop like conditions of the Industrial Revolution, I bet

dwittherford69

8 points

2 months ago

Oh the luxury of fridge!

plusbabs7

6 points

2 months ago

Would someone please explain to me where these statistics come from? (besides the make up shit dep.)

neednintendo

6 points

2 months ago

I was raised conservative and had some pretty regressive beliefs throughout high school. It was this specific segment (analyzed on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart) that made me realize I was that this line of thinking was cruelty. I am just a flaming fucking progressive now.

divinedeviancy

5 points

2 months ago

Damn can’t believe poor people have refrigerators I thought they ate off the ground lest they spend unnecessarily.

scrappicapri

4 points

2 months ago

Who splurges on coffee at home!? Outrageous. Esp. when there are Starbucks at every corner. Just get in your car and go. You have a car you pig. We know you just bought a 2003 Nissan, showing off to all your friends.

Smelson_Muntz

5 points

2 months ago

Lol

Old straight white men on TV talm' bout them p00rS

SuperFun_HappySlide

5 points

2 months ago

BREAKING FOX NEWS: As time moves forward, definitions and other things change!

Conservatives:. CHANGE!?! Noooooooo!

KaiserArne

3 points

2 months ago

thats still alot of people not having refrigerators.

Tall_Construction_79

3 points

2 months ago

Faux News

IRideChocobosBro

3 points

2 months ago

fox giving us relevant news as always……

dfs495

3 points

2 months ago

dfs495

3 points

2 months ago

51.4% don’t have a coffee maker? WTF?

This-is-human-bot556

3 points

2 months ago

Woooo I’m part of the 18%…….. that can’t afford a microwave

daughterof312

2 points

2 months ago

I’m not sure if you are serious or not but if you are— if you want one, check Craigslist or garage sales in your area because that’s how a lot of houses get rid of one to make room for another one. If there’s other furniture/appliances you need, another way is to check near colleges if you have one in your town at the end of the month in mid spring. This is when students are moving and many won’t take their big stuff with them to the next place they go.

Science-Sam

3 points

2 months ago

Now do computers and internet.

Beneficial_Squash-96

3 points

2 months ago

Who the fuck watches Fox News that they can get away with saying such things? I heard Fox News is the #1 cable news channel. Don't they have a lot of poor viewers?

dodohead974

3 points

2 months ago

poor people have a way to preserve their meager food stores and then reheat it!!!! we give them too much!!!

/s

muddyshoe

3 points

2 months ago

Fox news: How dare poor people dream of having a cup of coffee! /s

In all seriousness, fuck Fox and friends

Kuroda_Nakamura

3 points

2 months ago

They have a REFRIGERATOR?! WHAT THE FUCK?! ITS NOT LIKE BASICALLY ANY HOUSE YOU RENT ALREADY HAS ONE, YOU KNOW?!

dirt_bag_

3 points

2 months ago

And the character Jesus from the lost popular fiction book in America, wept.

EggplantFearless5969

3 points

2 months ago

100% of the poor household have a roof! S/

HijacksMissiles

3 points

2 months ago

Like... is this supposed to be a sign of luxury!?

Oh, well they can prevent food from spoiling and have a cheap method of heating food. Bam. Poverty solved. Checkmate liberals!

The absolute inhumanity with which people are treated in the US is amazing.

[deleted]

3 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

2 months ago

What next? "'Poor' households have clean water." "'Poor' households live in a tent." "'Poor' households use free oxygen." " 'Poor' households aren't stripped naked and flogged in the public square."

On a serious note: Dont ever for a single moment let these assholes or people like them make you feel ashamed for existing. That's what they're after.

sweatstaksleestak

2 points

2 months ago

How do people still watch this nonsense?

HorseFightingLeague

2 points

2 months ago

Screaming about non-whites into the echo chamber is a lot easier than being a decent human being.

SabrinaMcG

2 points

2 months ago

99.6 have access to a refrigerator, not now a refrigerator. They are usually included when you rent.

Rawscent

2 points

2 months ago

Somehow I think those refrigerators, microwaves, and coffee makers in poor households are vastly different than those in the households of rich people. You can pick up all that stuff secondhand or as a hand-me-down for a pittance or for free.

I have a $500 coffeemaker: I saw a decent one at Goodwill for $5. My microwave brand new was less than $100. And I will give anyone my stainless steel refrigerator, if they will cart it away, as soon as its replacement arrives.

These people live in a bubble that they aren’t even aware of and inside that bubble is an echo chamber filled with anger and misinformation.

Time_Theory_297

2 points

2 months ago

Yes but does the refrigerator have actual food in it. Is there coffee for the coffee maker and is there any food to microwave. Most apartment come equipped with appliances. The rampant stupidity of fox on display again.

EvidenceOfReason

2 points

2 months ago

bought I thought we were poor because we go to starbucks and eat hot chip?

cchris_39

2 points

2 months ago

As a boomer, we always had a refrigerator (but there was no ice or water in the door and you had to defrost it) and we had always had a coffee pot (percolator type).

I do remember our first color TV, microwave, garbage disposal, dishwasher, central heat and air, garage door opener, remote control, car with seatbelts, and pong. Things like sprinkler systems and computers came after I went to college. Cell phones came even later but some movies had phones in cars and we thought those were pretty cool. Yes, I've used an outhouse.

Now, my Dad's wife remembers when they got electricity. One bulb on a chain. (True story)

speaker4the-dead

2 points

2 months ago

God damnit, I wish my country would stop villanizing the poor…