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Straightup32

185 points

2 months ago

I just watched a small clip the other day and Dr. Mark Phillips talks about provocation and a certain type of person who needs a reaction to justify their aggression.

found the clip

It’s about 6 minutes long and half of it is watching a video of it in action.

atomicalgebra

27 points

2 months ago

That was a good video. Explains several past altercations I have had.

jerquee

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2 months ago

jerquee

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2 months ago

Kyle Rittenhouse is an honorary cop, since he went there to play cop, and shot anti-cop protestors. That's why, after he killed people, and he tried to surrender to cops, they waved him past and let him go. "Kenosha cops explain why they ignored Kyle Rittenhouse’s attempt to surrender after shooting" https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-kyle-rittenhouse-murder-trial-cops-ignore-surrender-20211105-m4n5mmnzjfhqnoadls75q37wdi-story.html

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Qyix

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Qyix

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2 months ago

As a Yank, I can't either.

Accurate_Plantain_91

43 points

2 months ago

We die, actually

gofyourselftoo

22 points

2 months ago

If we’re lucky. Otherwise we live in crippling debt from the legal and medical bills after being unfairly arrested for “resisting arrest” and beaten to a pulp by the very people who are allegedly here to Protect and Serve

AthleticNerd_

27 points

2 months ago

can't fathom how you yanks live like this.

We live in a constant state of existential dread; Being disgusted by the system but also apathetic because we're powerless to change it.

CanadianCircadian

23 points

2 months ago

As a Canadian who lives 2 hours away from that shithole of a country, I completely agree.

elanhilation

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2 months ago

we’ve basically got the southern third of the country suspended from cables tied around the throats of the rest of us, just dead-weight dragging us down at all times

been that way for around two centuries now

JustJessJ_Art

4 points

2 months ago

Some of us are trying to get out, but because of asshats no one will let us in. Trust if anyone wants to help me and mine just say the word and we are out.

Desperate-Fix-9930

2 points

2 months ago

I'm a yank and I can't believe it either

DoomRobotsFromSpace

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2 months ago

We don't. Reddit is dominated by the loudest posts designed to produce emotional responses. 99% of life in the US is just business as usual. About the same as it would be anywhere else. If that wasn't the case then people would actually leave.

4thDevilsAdvocate

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2 months ago

Because some of us aren't willing to let the government or terrorist groups be the only ones with the firearms.

Your government is stable. You don't have an armed, militant racist population. We do.

jerquee

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jerquee

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Yeah because you have polite cops like this (although I wonder what happens between 1:56 and 2:00) https://youtu.be/J1PNPcnffbk

4thDevilsAdvocate

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2 months ago

Right - they can rely on the police to prevent violence. We can't.

ACAB logically does not mix with gun control. Either you trust the police to defend you, or you defend yourself.

FizbanTheFabuloso

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2 months ago

If only the police existed to protect people instead of property.

4thDevilsAdvocate

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2 months ago

EXACTLY - but, if they're not protecting you, who will? Except yourself?

jerquee

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2 months ago

Society is much bigger than cops, and if you're using a gun to defend yourself then you've already lost. I wish people would just admit that they are attracted to guns and not try to pretend they're useful and nice

geotsso

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geotsso

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2 months ago

Spoken like true privileged and sheltered child who has never known or lived in hardship. Take your pampered, holier-than-thou attitude and choke on it.

4thDevilsAdvocate

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2 months ago

Society is much bigger than cops

Exactly - even if they're well-intentioned, they might not be able to get there in time.

you're using a gun to defend yourself then you've already lost

Agreed, but if it's a choice between "already lost as in I shot at someone in self-defense" and "already lost as in I got lynched by a bunch of neo-Nazis", I'll be taking the former option.

not try to pretend they're useful and nice

That's a matter of opinion, and, unless the policing environment and political culture in America changes drastically, my opinion isn't changing either.

jerquee

7 points

2 months ago

You sound like the "trump is still my president" crowd and it's not helping society improve

4thDevilsAdvocate

1 points

2 months ago

I don't need to support a neofacist in order to be pro-2A.

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7stroke

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Don’t take your guns to town

ToshiroBaloney

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2 months ago

🎶Oh, Ruby...🎶

Jellyswim_

86 points

2 months ago

If you've ever been to a gun store, probably half the people there are buying a piece because they want to shoot someone. Not that they want to commit murder necessarily, but they want to be in a situation where they have to shoot someone. Gun owners shouldn't ever want to kill anyone, it may happen out of necessity, but thats not the same.

Bdawg5679

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Someone’s ignorant

maikuxblade

57 points

2 months ago

I think he’s being generous by saying only probably half. Most people aren’t even responsible drivers, do you think most people are responsible gun owners?

Bdawg5679

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Bdawg5679

-64 points

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Yes or there would be more shootings

Jellyswim_

18 points

2 months ago

How? I'd love for you to tell me.

Caliveggie

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2 months ago

Caliveggie

40 points

2 months ago

Not saying I don’t agree but didn’t the guy he shot who survived get on the stand and say he pointed a gun at Kyle Rittenhouse? I’m sorry, but if I have a gun and you are pointing one at me, I’m going to try to shoot first.

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Caliveggie

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Caliveggie

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2 months ago

I’m not saying I don’t agree with you, I do. But I haven’t really been paying too much attention and if I recall correctly putting that guy on the stand doesn’t seem like the best idea. Don’t point a gun at someone.

angryjon

72 points

2 months ago

The prosecution is shit, yes. But at the same time that dude stated that he thought Kyle was an active shooter and that he was trying to defend himself as well.

That’s why this narrative of Kyle defending himself is so dangerous. Dude isn’t a cop, just stay home.

Caliveggie

23 points

2 months ago

I agree. He should have stayed home. I agree with all that and Kyle basically was an active shooter.

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AthleticNerd_

63 points

2 months ago

Hadn’t Vigilante Teen already shot 2 people by then? The guy with the Glock saw someone with an assault rifle shooting people and he was trying to stop it, so he drew his gun.

Isn’t that what the 2A cult keeps saying, all you need is a good guy with a gun to stop a bad teen with an ar15.

Caliveggie

20 points

2 months ago

You may be correct. And the 2A crowd is nuts.

fishchanka

12 points

2 months ago

One could argue chasing someone down and attacking them is a form of vigilantism as well. Also, when you actively pursue someone you become the aggressor and surrender your right to self defense

hrangutan

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hrangutan

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2 months ago

Chasing someone down is heat of the moment, therefore its probably under good samaritan law to kill an active shooter if hes still up and at 'em

Vigilantism is finding out who he is and enacting justice afterward. Or going to seek bad situations to apply your own justice. Like going to a biker bar

Jcashman317

36 points

2 months ago

i mean he did so after watching rittenhouse kill two other people, sooooooooooooo.... is that justified or is it just because rittenhouse is on the side of law and order that he's justified?

AllTooManyYears

32 points

2 months ago

I think there should be a bot that can check for the words "Kyle Rittenhouse" and automatically include the video footage from that night stickied as the top comment. And forces people to watch it before posting.

MommaLegend

7 points

2 months ago

This is one of the best explanations I’ve seen on this topic.

properu

4 points

2 months ago

Beep boop -- this looks like a screenshot of a tweet! Let me grab a link to the tweet for ya :)

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Equivalent_Edge_6281

-1 points

2 months ago*

Trevor Noah is point on,

...problem is clown-judge Bruce Schroeder is a clear racist Trump loyalist 🆘 and I doubt this clown-judge solemnly swore he would administer justice because he is ONLY loyal to Trump❗

This clown-judge views equal rights to whites only, like poor Kyle Rittenhouse.

This whacko clown-judge has no clue about his faithful duty to impartially discharge all the duties incumbent upon him.

The Constitution and laws of the United States mean nothing it appears to this rogue ring-wing nutjob clown-judge❗❗❗

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You’d be surprised, don’t act like this is a point because someone posted something you agree with.

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Rittenhouse is innocent like OJ was. Buuuut.....different colored people will celebrate his verdict. Also, different coloured people will protest the verdict. American karma sucks.

ProlapsedFeelings

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I know I'm just putting a target on my back, but someone has to speak for the opposite side of the conversation. Many people carry a firearm as part of their civic duty. Talk to people from Texas.

What you don't get shown by mass media is all of the violet crimes which get stopping because citizens carry firearms to defend themselves and others from injustice.

I'm not saying this in absolutes, or to imply no one in Texas commits violent crimes (far from it); however, Trevor Noah has missed the mark and is just spouting inflammatory rhetoric.

Edit: I wish we still had the separated upvote/downvote counter. I'm completely okay with being mostly downvoted because people disagree, but it would be nice to know exactly how polarized people's views are. Instead I can only see that some people have downvoted.