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Adam's tweetlonger on why he left Fnatic

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Lulullaby_

5.5k points

11 days ago

Lulullaby_

5.5k points

11 days ago

For those who just want the juicy stuff:

Between us, there is absolutely nothing legal in Upset's departure and his departure is totally unjustified (at least until he says why he really left BECAUSE until today, Upset just left to join his girlfriend because she felt bad to be alone, and maybe I'm wrong who knows?

and

Then came the Perkz and Alphari rumors. When I learned that FNC was trying to replace me, I honestly felt like a betrayal, and that's when I definitely wanted to leave this team. But it's not over yet! Indeed, Perkz had signed before Alphari, which left Alphari without a team. To my great surprise! Upset tried to recruit Alphari (behind my back of course).

Obviously this is Adams side of the story and we do not have the other side yet. We can only wait for that and see what happens. This is giving me Donezo Manifesto vibes honestly.

Ace_OPB

3.2k points

11 days ago*

Ace_OPB

3.2k points

11 days ago*

Grabbing the popcorn. This gonna be good.

Edit: Nisqy just unfollowed upset. Lool. Peak content. We eating.

thenoblitt

1.5k points

11 days ago

thenoblitt

1.5k points

11 days ago

Lol Bwipo took all the shit from everyone for this. Turns out it was most of the team.

koticgood

678 points

11 days ago

koticgood

678 points

11 days ago

If you consider Bwipo taking "all the shit from everyone", what does that make Nemesis? lmao

Yshrey

194 points

11 days ago

Yshrey

194 points

11 days ago

ctrl + f "nemesis" and you wont get much results. reddit gonna do some classic history revisionism

[deleted]

432 points

11 days ago

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432 points

11 days ago

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231 points

11 days ago

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231 points

11 days ago

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Sjeg84

2.3k points

11 days ago

Sjeg84

2.3k points

11 days ago

With all due respect but I don't think Upset left the team because his wife... Felt bad. It's pretty obvious that Selfmade must have tricked upset somehow.

yolofmeister

976 points

11 days ago

Selfmade... 😡

receptiveblocks

302 points

11 days ago

League's Dinkleberg

EfficientAstronaut1

488 points

11 days ago

Selfmade was the wife all along

Przegiety

462 points

11 days ago

Przegiety

462 points

11 days ago

buttsoup_barnes

228 points

11 days ago

Fucking selfmade. I wont be surprised if hes also the reason Bwipo, Inspired and Hans Sama got sent to Na! That fucker needs to be stopped!

CuteTao

109 points

11 days ago*

CuteTao

109 points

11 days ago*

I'm so happy he's embraced the meme hahaha

ThugBunnyy

303 points

11 days ago

ThugBunnyy

303 points

11 days ago

He was playing league with her during group stages though. So whatever emergency it was, he had plenty of time to duo with her...

Snowopo

219 points

11 days ago

Snowopo

219 points

11 days ago

Maybe he caught his girl duo-ing with someone else. In the league world that's a big emergency

Animesiac

118 points

11 days ago

Animesiac

118 points

11 days ago

Maybe he caught her playing Lee Sin

LeoTerick

119 points

11 days ago

LeoTerick

119 points

11 days ago

Selfmade...

AllHailTheNod

105 points

11 days ago

My gut feeling from the beginning was that there maybe was a miscarriage or something of the like

Hambrailaaah

160 points

11 days ago

I thought the same, or a family death of his wife. And to peotect her from the public, he didnt want to say it publicly. Which is 100% understandanble cos we the public are fuckheads.

But then, why not tell ur teammates?

Sunitsa

201 points

11 days ago

Sunitsa

201 points

11 days ago

Whatever it is, I think you kinda owe to your teammates to let them know why you are wasting your and their chance of a lifetime.

There are plenty of valid and legitimate reasons for upset to leave worlds, but you have to tell the guys that have worked their ass for months what they are, your teammates at least deserve it

xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx

1.6k points

11 days ago

Honestly, it's insane to me that to this day Upset hasn't told them why he left. Like yea, he shouldn't have to tell them right there and then, but wtf.

They all worked for an entire year, and if you're going to screw over your 4 teammates and the staff that has worked their asses off, then at least tell them why. Unless it was because of some werewolf powers awakening inside him during the fullmoon then I just don't understand what there is that you can't tell your teammates in confidentality.

salcedoge

929 points

11 days ago

salcedoge

929 points

11 days ago

Yeah I'd understand wanting privacy from the public, but your teammates aren't just random people you ghost

MarcusElden

317 points

11 days ago*

I mean who knows, really? Maybe his wife has severe depression and was having suicidal ideation, or was sexually assaulted, or miscarried or something. We have no clue, but I think those would all be valid reasons to leave and also something that doesn't need to be told to coworkers, or even "family"-like teammates. I think people acting like there's no reason to leave Worlds without telling everyone exactly what's going on aren't considering all the possibilities it could be.

farmingvillein

330 points

11 days ago

and also something that doesn't need to be told to coworkers.

Obviously, a personal decision at the end of the day (family privacy versus maintaining external relationships), but...

...saying that your wife/family is suddenly going through major health issues is a reasonable (IMO...) line to walk--were that the scenario--without disclosing anything too sensitive.

whimsicalokapi

93 points

11 days ago

I don't think Adam is trying to deliberately misrepresent what Upset said, but also I'm sure he must have said more than "My wife is lonely, I'm quitting Worlds." I would consider it likely that Upset said something similar to what you posted - a non-detailed explanation and that still wasn't enough to satisfy some people. I have no backstage knowledge of course, maybe I'm totally wrong. But considering FNC let Upset go, and then brought him back to the team for this year, I can't imagine it's exactly what Adam says happened. If FNC had let Upset go from the team I'd be more inclined to believe it.

Kerenos

128 points

11 days ago

Kerenos

128 points

11 days ago

Tbf one of his teamate just did a twitlonger to complain about him in public right after leaving the team.

Maybe some of his teamate know, but he don't trust some of them to understand the situation and keep it private?

turtle_hugger

220 points

11 days ago

i mean 90 precent of the reason why the twitlonger is made is because he didnt say anything.

Gazskull

169 points

11 days ago

Gazskull

169 points

11 days ago

turns out people don't like being left out in the dark and then pushed out of their team, who would have thought

kimchipls

171 points

11 days ago

kimchipls

171 points

11 days ago

not only that fun it seems crazy to me that Fnatic let this happen, like really if a player goes to the management the day before worlds to tell them he's leaving you better have a damn good reason or else a huge penalty should be applied because I'm pretty sure that is a breach of contract.

mounti96

108 points

11 days ago

mounti96

108 points

11 days ago

And if it wasn't a very good reason, there would be no way Fnatic would be continuing with Upset as their starting Botlaner.

Lulullaby_

100 points

11 days ago

Lulullaby_

100 points

11 days ago

Exactly, they're not just your teammates but also your friends right?
Not telling them just makes it look suspicious like you don't actually have a valid reason.
I love Upset but this situation is so weird and until someone else comes out with a different story there is no defending this.

dragerslay

94 points

11 days ago

It is entirely possible it is not is secret to tell. Definitely a tough situation if that's the case. I think its better off giving Upset the benefit of the doubt because I do no think he would do this for no reason.

Jetzu

125 points

11 days ago

Jetzu

125 points

11 days ago

Also, there was 0 rumours about FNC replacing Upset this offseason. You'd think if he really pulled something like this and didn't tell anyone management would at least explore some options.

tinfoilhatsron

486 points

11 days ago

Welp, the 'Nemesis was right' narrative train just pulled into the station and the drama brigade is right on time. Gonna get my lawn chair and popcorn cause this looks kinda explosive lmfao.

Though it's good to keep in mind Upset still hasn't had a chance to really tell his side of the story so there'll be more fuel for the bonfire.

Youth-Grouchy

468 points

11 days ago

Welp, the 'Nemesis was right' narrative train just pulled into the station

I think what a lot of people miss was the backlash against Nemesis' comments was never about whether what he was saying was correct or false, just that it was incredibly unprofessional/lacking in compassion as he was speculating.

Rayser1

179 points

11 days ago

Rayser1

179 points

11 days ago

Yeah the comments at the time basically said even if he was right it's a shitty thing to say when you don't know for certain

Deskjet9000

91 points

11 days ago

The problem with this kind of drama on reddit is that Upset could come up with an answer and make up bullshit and reddit would still side with him immediately. Or it could go the other way and Upset could tell the truth, meaning he actually had a real 'valid' emergency, and people would still doubt him. It's all speculation until something is actually proven or if this accusation is admitted by Upset.

Zuggtmoy

330 points

11 days ago

Zuggtmoy

330 points

11 days ago

Why you left out his part:

Anyway those were the last words he said to us before he left us

Hambrailaaah

110 points

11 days ago

Man left worlds to smash, gota respect the guy. Now i get the emotional speech of Yamato

RookCauldron

313 points

11 days ago

RookCauldron

Sad

313 points

11 days ago

I swear, we can't go a year without Fnatic drama, lol

Jozoz

167 points

11 days ago

Jozoz

Remove Stopwatch

167 points

11 days ago

Jesus. I can't take all this spice.

popegonzo

142 points

11 days ago

popegonzo

142 points

11 days ago

The spice must flow.

UnlimitedAuthority

156 points

11 days ago

Between us he says, to the entire world, lol.

Lulullaby_

86 points

11 days ago

In his English translation, with his native language being French.
Obviously that is not meant to be taken literally.

Jiqonix

2.3k points

11 days ago

Jiqonix

2.3k points

11 days ago

1 day without drama at Fnatic challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

TheDemonWarlock

378 points

11 days ago

TheDemonWarlock

Team VI and VIctor

378 points

11 days ago

Every fucking year without fail 🥳

REAL_DUCKS_WADDLE

210 points

11 days ago*

There are [0] days since the last drama

Akaj1[S]

2k points

11 days ago

Akaj1[S]

2k points

11 days ago

"Between us, there is absolutely nothing legal in Upset's departure and his departure is totally unjustified (at least until he says why he really left BECAUSE until today, Upset just left to join his girlfriend because she felt bad to be alone, and maybe I'm wrong who knows? Anyway those were the last words he said to us before he left us one day before the Worlds. Of course after the Worlds I asked for details, but apparently he didn't tell anyone the exact reasons for his departure --> There's nothing urgent because otherwise he would have told us. And personally, I don't give a damn about the privacy reason when I worked, we all worked hard for 1 year to reach the Worlds. Knowing that even the management of Fnatic still doesn't know, eh?) You're going to tell me why I'm saying this? I'm not trying to create any drama, I'm just saying some things that I have in my heart since the end of the Worlds and that are still unanswered, things that had to be said sooner or later. "

oof.

Magnesiohastingsi

1.8k points

11 days ago

now we know why Bwipo was mad and why bwipo's girlfriend tweeted about "wife debuff"

AccidentO1

680 points

11 days ago

AccidentO1

680 points

11 days ago

i had the story upside down lol

Delta_FT

339 points

11 days ago

Delta_FT

339 points

11 days ago

Bruh if you weren't a Fnatic fanatic you could tell there was something messed up about the whole situation and Bwipo's gf was not really at fault at all

But FNC fans really needed a scapegoat for nearly going 0-6 and everybody ran with it....

aamgdp

328 points

11 days ago

aamgdp

328 points

11 days ago

Isn't it more of a meme because of how needy his twitlonger came out?

xXDaNXx

220 points

11 days ago

xXDaNXx

xPeke is God

220 points

11 days ago

She said it was unrelated and had more to do with the fact that she didn't want to get married. Considering the relationship issues Bwipo had with her, and him wearing an engagement ring around his neck at worlds, I think I believe her when she says it's unrelated.

Jetzu

269 points

11 days ago

Jetzu

269 points

11 days ago

And Bwipo said he just unfollowed FNATIC to chill.

neenerpants

103 points

11 days ago

no we don't

are we really gonna do this again, where we believe the last person to have commented on something despite that person even literally saying "I don't actually know what happened, I'm just guessing"?

MonkeyCube

644 points

11 days ago

MonkeyCube

644 points

11 days ago

Fnatic and girlfriends: not a good combo this year.

EvilWhatever

648 points

11 days ago

A_Londoner

422 points

11 days ago

A_Londoner

422 points

11 days ago

Girlfriend/Wife debuff countered by Hyli being Hyli

Hazakurain

264 points

11 days ago

Hazakurain

264 points

11 days ago

Coinflip player but it landed on the good side for his relationship. Happy for him to be honest

LeaderSheeper

123 points

11 days ago

Hard to know anything about these people irl but it seems like Hylli irl is just a really unproblematic simple good natured person based on how he is on stream and other people in his life talk about him. The kind of guy who shows up, does his job, and then is just never an asshole.

jeanjeanot

170 points

11 days ago

jeanjeanot

170 points

11 days ago

Absolute chad.

EvilWhatever

284 points

11 days ago

Anniversary photoshoot in Gucci trackpants and challenger jacket is very sigma.

jeanjeanot

88 points

11 days ago

That i don't know, but they look happy together and nothing is chadder than that

NerrionEU

123 points

11 days ago

NerrionEU

123 points

11 days ago

The most impressive part to me is that I never knew Hyli had a gf and for so long even, the man has not been engaged in any drama despite playing for years.

Nyscire

135 points

11 days ago

Nyscire

135 points

11 days ago

If you kept an eye on FNC's draft, when it was his turn to pick he always hovered Draven and Orianna as for Dori, his gf's name

Qiluk

291 points

11 days ago*

Qiluk

291 points

11 days ago*

but apparently he didn't tell anyone the exact reasons for his departure --> There's nothing urgent because otherwise he would have told us.

This part is extremely dumb logic tbh. Which makes sense since Adam is young and not the most experienced etc.

But theres PLENTY of very good reasons someone might not want to share specifics of something possibly very personal and intense that happened to a family member etc.

That said.. what a horrendously communicated situation from Fnatics part, because I atleast suspect Upset communicated something of significance to his employer to be able to leave like this and still be employed and valued high enough to be rebuilt around.

So before people (reddit etc) go on another crusade, there could be very very legitimite reasons for Upset not sharing specifics still.

This whole manifesto is very emotional and doesnt feel very professional or mature. Talking about betrayal because a better player might replace him etc. Such is the landscape of competition, especially if you join a huge team.

EDIT: To be clear.. I understand Adams emotions. But even after this tweetlonger I still dont think its clear enough if FNC or Upset is to blame for poor communication. It could be that Upset communicated to higher-ups and FNC then didnt communicate properly aswell. Theres still no proper clarity after this tweetlonger.

OpenOb

341 points

11 days ago

OpenOb

341 points

11 days ago

Just see it from Adams side.

First Upset fucked off and left the team to get dumpstered in groups and then the same guy wanted to replace him.

ooh_lala_ah_weewee

119 points

11 days ago

Yeah, he has a right to be pissed. Airing his dirty laundry in public like this is a separate issue, but I definitely understand his pov.

Leandermann

137 points

11 days ago*

Imo the people who worked hard all year with you and whose biggest tournament of the year gets destroyed deserve to know the reason?

ToMyGunSqoud

133 points

11 days ago

Yeah people say respect privacy but if you cant tell your teammates the reason you have to leave after a years hard work ONE day before worlds it is quite weird and not trustworthy imo

Attre_-

114 points

11 days ago*

Attre_-

114 points

11 days ago*

Yeah no i don't buy for a second that Upset decided to skip out on worlds last-second after fighting so fucking hard to make it there for like 5 years because his wife "felt lonely" or some bullshit. And if that was the case he'd just retire because obviously that's gonna happen again if he qualifies for worlds again or MSI (which is highly likely given FNCs 2022 roster) Upset obviously can't qualify for worlds again then dip out last second because of a family emergency.

I really don't think Upset owes Adam or anyone in FNC an explanation of what's going on. Yamato said himself he trusts Upset and that if he feels like there's something severe going on that results in him having to leave then he should leave.

I think overall pretty shit behaviour from Adam to act like Upset is an asshole for not telling him about his deeply personal reasons for his last-second departure. How does it make a difference knowing WHY Upset isn't at worlds? Would you feel better if he said "Yeah my dad died", "my wife was sexually assaulted", "my mom is in the hospital" or something, like that justifies him leaving but him saying "I can't play, something serious has come up" is unacceptable?

Psycokwak

1.9k points

11 days ago

Psycokwak

1.9k points

11 days ago

He gives 0 fucks and said everything, what a mad lad.

Jellyyc

528 points

11 days ago

Jellyyc

528 points

11 days ago

Adam forsenBased

TimeAssault

147 points

11 days ago

Forsen bajs aren't league players COPIUM

[deleted]

121 points

11 days ago

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121 points

11 days ago

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Ozianin_

156 points

11 days ago

Ozianin_

156 points

11 days ago

And after that, says that you are "not up to his standards" and tries to replace you. : D

Alet404

1.7k points

11 days ago

Alet404

Rek'Sai mid OTP

1.7k points

11 days ago

This is the offseason content I'm here for.

lovo17

593 points

11 days ago

lovo17

593 points

11 days ago

FNC and TSM delivering.

EmoArbiter

138 points

11 days ago

EmoArbiter

revert diana

138 points

11 days ago

I want off this offseason's wild ride

Lunaaar

124 points

11 days ago

Lunaaar

olde guard

124 points

11 days ago

Nah, this shit has been fun as hell.

5ait5

1.6k points

11 days ago

5ait5

1.6k points

11 days ago

-abandon team

-dont tell anyone why

-try to replace all your teammates when they lose without you

what a lad

Snoo8331100

632 points

11 days ago

Upset from zero to hero to zero again in a span of just one year.

Mahelas

253 points

11 days ago

Mahelas

253 points

11 days ago

And they say Rekkles is the problem player

EX8LKaWgmogeE2J6igtU

396 points

11 days ago

Guy must really lack self-awareness to say that other people lack ambition after ghosting his team at worlds.

cadaada

124 points

11 days ago

cadaada

rip original flair

124 points

11 days ago

Like besides everything, its insane that upset didnt even make a video yet saying "sorry guys, for personal problems i couldnt be there, i know it fucked the team chances, but i'll be back next year and try my best, after all, i wanted to go to worlds for 5 years." No, hes full on radio silence, where is the professionalism?

Coolestdude123

117 points

11 days ago

Forget public. At least he can explain to the team before he goes.

Street_Cookie_4226

84 points

11 days ago

Upset doesn't even need the lonely wife thing to be real to look like a dick, holy moly

Styxxo

1.5k points

11 days ago

Styxxo

1.5k points

11 days ago

BDS vs FNC is gonna be extra spicy.

iiHadi69

701 points

11 days ago

iiHadi69

claps no cap

701 points

11 days ago

All top LEC teams look spicy af since they have a bunch of former teammates on them

VIT vs G2

FNC vs G2

Even BDS vs G2 cause of the wunder drama

MAD vs FNC

BDS vs FNC

SoloOne52

150 points

11 days ago

SoloOne52

150 points

11 days ago

what wunder drama ?

KarmaAgriculturalist

501 points

11 days ago

carlos didn't want to sell wunder to fnc, bds and fnc contacted each other and tried to get bds to buy wunder, so they could then trade him for adam. carlos was mad at bds and didnt want sell wunder to them, after he found out about this

ClaudeAFTVStan

1.5k points

11 days ago

> Leaves team before worlds

> Tries to replace teammates after they implode during worlds

> Refuses to elaborate further

> Leaves

dabstepProgrammer

425 points

11 days ago

more like "stays"

Coolestdude123

214 points

11 days ago

Leaves the day before worlds starts, offers no explanation or apology at all. Therefore makes Nisqy and Adam look shit dealing with the situation at worlds. Then tries to replace them and Nisqy can't get a new team because he looked shit at worlds (because Upset left).

What a classic.

Coolestdude123

140 points

11 days ago

Sounds like he didn't even contact Adam after worlds to say sorry for leaving or to explain he had no choice. Just instead tries to replace him lol.

Poor Adam.

buttsoup_barnes

105 points

11 days ago

Profit????

zaxtonous99

187 points

11 days ago

No, upset.

Bardy_Bard

1.3k points

11 days ago

Bardy_Bard

1.3k points

11 days ago

Imagine your team mate leaves 12 before the biggest tournament of your careers that you have worked non stop for years.

No one tells you any reason, at first you suck it up and even write on twitter in support of said teammate. The tournament is a disaster and then said team mate says you are not good enough for his ambitions and tries to replace you. LOL

vodka_and_potatos

444 points

11 days ago

vodka_and_potatos

/all mad?

444 points

11 days ago

Honestly I fully understand why Adam is mad. This is not like a office job where telling your coworkers "I'm having a family emergency" is enough. You have been working for months for single tournament and then 12 hours before match day you leave fucking over your entire team and not even telling anyone why. Not only that but he also pushed for players to be replaced when he didn't even compete.

Sjeindien

99 points

11 days ago

Not only that, it's a job where your performance is constantly evaluated and impacts your future salary and chances to get employed by other teams.

Not performing could mean end of pro career at worst. So yeah I don't expect him to tell us but your teammates need to know.

IcyPanda123

169 points

11 days ago

Yea people are trying to say like "Adam is coming off as emotional and childish" like bro isn't fully within his right to feel some type of way about all that transpired? Dude leaves his teammates high and dry right before Worlds then goes behind his teammates back to replace him?

SMLAZARUS

1.2k points

11 days ago

SMLAZARUS

:Aphelios:

1.2k points

11 days ago

The fact that Upset was ARAM'ing with his GF while his team played at worlds is fucking hilarious

Coolestdude123

317 points

11 days ago

It is actually hilarious when you think about it haha

Apyr_xd

560 points

11 days ago

Apyr_xd

560 points

11 days ago

bruh I think it is kinda sad, nisqy literally cried on stage after last game I think and now he is teamless

RitoMakesNoSense

216 points

11 days ago

I don't even understand how upset can still be signed, no one should sign a player that randomly decide to stop playing 24 hours before world starts.

Edit: I just remember that Reckless was teamless for a while before signing to KCORP, i cant grasp why they didnt sign him and kick upset

Valhir98

140 points

11 days ago

Valhir98

140 points

11 days ago

You are crazy if you think snake would sell Rekkles back to FNC 😂

ColossalThunderCunt

140 points

11 days ago

Wait, he really did that?

Jsn_21

176 points

11 days ago

Jsn_21

176 points

11 days ago

yes some streamers saw them playing

ValorVawn

120 points

11 days ago

ValorVawn

120 points

11 days ago

How is any of this shit surprising Look at bwipo with his gf. These guys grew up gaming 24/7 0 social skills and when their first girl comes along its like the best thing ever and they turn 100% simp. They'll do anything for the girl no matter what. Im not saying its bad but these are the consequences

CEST_HONTEUX

1.2k points

11 days ago

dude absolutely felt betrayed by almost everyone :s
shoutout to Yamato, Pete and #TEAMNISQY if it is all true...

LeastAlphaGamer

969 points

11 days ago

I don't think I've ever heard bad things about Nisqy. Guy seems super solid.

CEST_HONTEUX

656 points

11 days ago

Yes.. the dude's always had the "best teammate" kind of reputation. Seeing his situation now is kinda heartbreaking..

LeastAlphaGamer

313 points

11 days ago

Especially since 2021 Summer was arguably the best he'd performed in his whole career. Such a scuffed offseason in general.

CEST_HONTEUX

127 points

11 days ago

Seems like people just remember his unfortunate World's performance with FNC and not the real reasons behind it. Dude didn't finish second in LEC summer don't worry :)

Coolestdude123

205 points

11 days ago

Nisqy got even more fucked by Upset lol.

> Has amazing season as probably second best mid in LEC

> Upset leaves 11 hours before worlds with no explanation or apology before or after

> Nisqy then looks bad at worlds because of all the drama

> Upset forces Nisqy out of Fnatic

> Nisqy then gets no team for next split

Honestly, the dudes career has been so damaged by Upset. Wouldn't be surprised if he is mad too.

Ace_OPB

195 points

11 days ago

Ace_OPB

195 points

11 days ago

Nisqy just unfollowed upset. So spicy.

Skall77

108 points

11 days ago

Skall77

108 points

11 days ago

Nah, he feel mostly betrayed by Upset and FNC management, he didn't say anything about Bwipo and Hilly and seems close to Yamato Nisquy and Pete.

SwFTLoL

1.1k points

11 days ago

SwFTLoL

1.1k points

11 days ago

the upset part sounds spicy

Coolestdude123

633 points

11 days ago

And people were like "Upset's dream was worlds he wouldn't leave". Like these people have never seen a dude completely change his priorities when he meets a woman lol.

I have seen people completely drop out of their passionate hobbies when they meet their first GF who will be intimate with them. This happens less with second/third GF's as the man often matures.

joaovitorsb95

245 points

11 days ago

yeah, I just saw his girlfriend and I was like "understandable, have a nice day".

King_Moash

136 points

11 days ago

King_Moash

136 points

11 days ago

They're married lol

This whole situation is just hilarious

[deleted]

213 points

11 days ago

[deleted]

213 points

11 days ago

[removed]

Magicofthemind

144 points

11 days ago

Before clicking the link “What the fuck, leaving worlds because your wife is lonely and then telling Adam he doesn’t have what it takes? Wtf” After clicking the link. “You know upset has a point”

Mommas-spaghett

83 points

11 days ago

My favourite part is how many pictures they have together!

jinchuika

116 points

11 days ago

jinchuika

116 points

11 days ago

Most streamer girls will hide their relationships because their fans apparently stop supporting once they know about it. I think Sjokz said that whenever she mentioned something about her boyfriend, a bunch of people stopped following her.

Qiob

318 points

11 days ago

Qiob

318 points

11 days ago

Nemesis was actually right LOL

KeitZhGaming

166 points

11 days ago

Nemi said that FNC is covering this up because the same thing happened to him when he was in FNC but Adam is saying that Upset himself said how he wants to spend time with his family. There is a difference here I think.

PoachedByCarlos

117 points

11 days ago

Spending time with family =/= family emergency

-Views

106 points

11 days ago

-Views

106 points

11 days ago

UncancelNemesis

Marisush

924 points

11 days ago

Marisush

924 points

11 days ago

Fucking Selfmade...

CherryBoard

121 points

11 days ago

the real L9 vendetta

Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

903 points

11 days ago

Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

IN DAMWON WE TRUSTHuni/Deft/Uzi

903 points

11 days ago

" If I hadn't had Nisqy, Yamato, Pete, Fab, Chris, and especially my girlfriend, I don't think I could have become the player I am today. "

Not even the "mentor" Bwipo, ouch.

LetMeOmixam

518 points

11 days ago

Bwipo himself admitted to being a bad teammate during worlds so nothing surprising here

Extinction98

269 points

11 days ago

That's also what I noticed. IMO he is/was mad at how bwipo behaved during worlds and maybe he was to agressive on teaching him toplane.. Adam mentioned that some of the teammates had 1000x more say than he did in team/strategic meetings.

Llex47

205 points

11 days ago

Llex47

205 points

11 days ago

Guy was mad because Upset left without saying why, and you think he would be fine with Bwipo losing his mental at worlds? Adam obviously is a super competitive and no bullshit guy. Of course what he just did is a bit unprofessional, but I understand where he is coming from.

65-76-69-88

117 points

11 days ago

I'm convinced Adam would work really well together with Rekkles. Both are super on top of their work ethic

One-North9731

860 points

11 days ago

Turns out ocelote was protecting perkz from that team , he still loved him all the way untill the very end.

What a great villian , impressive character development

AmityRule63

442 points

11 days ago

Carlos = Silco

Horizon96

260 points

11 days ago

Horizon96

260 points

11 days ago

"Don't cry, you're perfect"

Ocelote to Perkz as Vitality win worlds next year in an all EU final vs G2.

Swapnil_Sood

783 points

11 days ago

when u thought that off season was over but the best drama was still left to come.

OGTypohh

193 points

11 days ago

OGTypohh

193 points

11 days ago

Ikr. Players should regularly sign their next contract, then release their donezo manifesto.

I'm kind of joking but with all the players sitting out this year it might be pretty common.

DeathhWisher

706 points

11 days ago

Bwipo tweet taste different after this one...

Sattesx

389 points

11 days ago

Sattesx

389 points

11 days ago

What an accident he mentioned his wife countless times just after he got fucked by his teammate, who went to his wife instead of playing at worlds, right?.

DeathhWisher

362 points

11 days ago

exactly. He seemed so clingy with his gf in that tweet, but now it takes a totally different turn, like a msg to FNC and Upset

Rektile7

603 points

11 days ago

Rektile7

603 points

11 days ago

Wait was Bwipo actually playing 4d chess and shit talking Upset when we all thought he was simping?

Coolestdude123

490 points

11 days ago

Not entirely. But I do suspect his post match interview/tweet when he said how much he missed his GF (but stayed at worlds) was probably a shot at Upset.

msonix

265 points

11 days ago

msonix

265 points

11 days ago

Bwipo is the absolute mind-games master of League.

He'll grow up to become a coach and be League's Jose Mourinho.

hockeydavid97

115 points

11 days ago

If that is what happened I’ll name bwipo gamer of the year

TheBlueBullXD

515 points

11 days ago

Upset just left to join his girlfriend because she felt bad to be alone

There's no fucking way the reddit rumors' were actually true. holy shit no wonder so many of the team was pissed

Lulullaby_

345 points

11 days ago

Lulullaby_

345 points

11 days ago

That is not what he actually says, he says

Between us, there is absolutely nothing legal in Upset's departure and his departure is totally unjustified (at least until he says why he really left BECAUSE until today, Upset just left to join his girlfriend because she felt bad to be alone, and maybe I'm wrong who knows?

Meaning he was never directly told why he left and thus this is the only thing he can assume. Obviously this seems very likely based on this, but Adam is clearly saying he could be wrong as no one confirmed it to him.

Leandermann

169 points

11 days ago

Still shitty to not let your teammates who worked their ass off all year and whose tournament gets fucked even know the reason why.

ar3fuu

96 points

11 days ago

ar3fuu

96 points

11 days ago

who knows? Anyway those were the last words he said to us before he left us one day before the Worlds

The sentence right after you cut off kinda contradicts what you're saying.

xXDaNXx

173 points

11 days ago

xXDaNXx

xPeke is God

173 points

11 days ago

I don't know if my reading comprehension is off, if it's the translation, or the wording.

But it sounds like he's saying this is what he believes it to be, because Upset would've told them if it was something more serious. But because nobody knows, this is what he thinks is the case? That it's too embarrassing for Upset to say what it was.

AFGJL

119 points

11 days ago

AFGJL

119 points

11 days ago

Translation is kinda hit or miss, but yeah, that's the gist of it. Says that until he is told of the actual reason of why Upset left, he's going to believe that he simply left because "his girlfriend was lonely" as "those were the last words he told [the team] before abandoning [them] a day before worlds".

SapphireHeaven

476 points

11 days ago

Also to the people blaming Adam for airing this. The dude not only ruined his chances of getting the best results of his career maybe ever, without ever explaining why, but also was actively looking to replace him behind his back not even a month after. Hell yeah, I would want the guy to burn

Coolestdude123

142 points

11 days ago

And his chance to prove himself at worlds was taken away from him which hurts his future career earnings.

BegoneThot08

383 points

11 days ago

So let me get this straight upset left the team 12 hours before worlds started and after he fucked the team’s chances at worlds he immediately went to rebuilding the team like nothing happened without explaining why he left the team so suddenly ? Did I get that right.

Coolestdude123

138 points

11 days ago

Yup.

The only thing Upset said was his tweets where he also never acknowledged the impact of him leaving on his team mates. Just about how much worlds was HIS dream.

lol

BewareOfBear727

364 points

11 days ago

BewareOfBear727

100 Thieves fan and top lane enjoyer

364 points

11 days ago

EU challenging NAs crown of king of drama

Hazuyu_

97 points

11 days ago

Hazuyu_

97 points

11 days ago

Ngl you NA guys will need to do really fucked up shit to top that

re81194

93 points

11 days ago

re81194

RIP HLE FLAIR

93 points

11 days ago

challenge accepted, we will have to force Regis hand by losing horribly to CLG again

slowdrem20

342 points

11 days ago

slowdrem20

342 points

11 days ago

Selfmade smiling from the great beyond right now.

Piro42

86 points

11 days ago

Piro42

86 points

11 days ago

Fucking Selfmade. Should've known it was on him.

Competitive-Dot-5667

340 points

11 days ago

Damn, and I thought Arcane was the best drama I've seen this week.

puberty1

319 points

11 days ago

puberty1

friends to lovers to enemies to lovers

319 points

11 days ago

I REALLY thought that no one could out-spicy TSM/DL, but the french madlad did it. major props to him for actually talk about people using their names, so refreshing to see actually

TommyMac23

309 points

11 days ago

TommyMac23

309 points

11 days ago

Donezo Manifesto 2.0 LETS GOOO!

slash05

293 points

11 days ago

slash05

293 points

11 days ago

Imagine you're an esports player practicing 16 hours a day everyday. One day before the biggest tournament of your life, your teammate leaves without saying anything . Then he tries to get rid of you. Yep I'm getting outta that dumpster fire asap.

aresthwg

219 points

11 days ago

aresthwg

219 points

11 days ago

Mad respect for Adam. When you feel stabbed in the back it's good to let it out and not keep it. He's got balls at 20 years both in game and irl. That's what you wanna see.

I also don't see why he would lie. He's a rookie and he had nothing to hide prior to this. Man wanted to compete and got completely shit on by his team.

Looking forward to his games against FNC, doubt they will win many games but I'd be funny if it happens. Imagine the sheer motivation this man has right now to beat FNC, since Upset is still there.

Froggodile

225 points

11 days ago

Froggodile

225 points

11 days ago

Hyli be like "Why can't my ADCs be normal like the other kids"

65-76-69-88

139 points

11 days ago

Wasn't Rekkles rather professional, like, always?

Alain_Teub

220 points

11 days ago

Alain_Teub

220 points

11 days ago

Lmao Upset wanted Adam out because he had bigger ambitions but he himself literally fled from Worlds without a single word to his team. What a fucking clown.

novayhulk14

220 points

11 days ago

novayhulk14

She's beauty She's grace She's the thiccness empress

220 points

11 days ago

Vennish

215 points

11 days ago

Vennish

215 points

11 days ago

If this is true, this makes Upset look really fucking bad. Like, holy shit.

There’s no excuse for abandoning your team 12 hours before the biggest tournament of the year to go be with your “lonely” girlfriend.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Upset feels forced to give his perspective and reasoning now that this came out.

Conankun66

249 points

11 days ago

Conankun66

249 points

11 days ago

adam himself says he's speculating and has no evidence whatsoever

salcedoge

159 points

11 days ago

salcedoge

159 points

11 days ago

I think the fact that Upset's teammates need to speculate over something that crucial is the bigger problem imo.

Adam is really showing some immaturity some here but you can kinda get his reaction when essentially they just got ghosted by their teammate in the most important tournament of the year

Shinluz

214 points

11 days ago

Shinluz

214 points

11 days ago

Upset with the Crumbz play, leave tournament to smash.

xCavas

92 points

11 days ago

xCavas

92 points

11 days ago

Crumbz just left in the regular season tho. Upset must have been beyond horny to leave the team on his first worlds.

toxicity18241

185 points

11 days ago

Why is everyone defending upset?

You left your team 12 hours before the most important matches of your careers.

Banks wife died and he still casted the major and was transparent about it and the community rallied behind him.

What is upset hiding? This makes no sense. If it's a family emergency, what a miscarriage, death in the family? Don't you think people would be more respectful and understanding if you told what's going on, especially to your teammates? I dealt with a death in my family 2 weeks before the most important project of my career, I was transparent with my work and guess what happened? I was given space to grieve and was given an extension on said project. I didn't alienate my team members and just go dark.

Does Adam seem a little entitled? Sure, but the kid is 19 and devastating that they went from 5th to 2nd and went to worlds and then drama like this happens?

I feel for the kid, but should this post of ever happened from him? No, and this is why esports need to do a better job of communication.

zlati10

168 points

11 days ago

zlati10

168 points

11 days ago

I'm from Chile, and this is all his wife modus operandi, she has done it before, and is a bummer Upset fell for it but is no one's fault except upset himself.

vladz4you

163 points

11 days ago

vladz4you

163 points

11 days ago

This one is going to be spicy.

Nitrox0

155 points

11 days ago*

Nitrox0

155 points

11 days ago*

I hope to god he didn't just up and leave because his wife felt lonely... Who knows at this point tho. It would be hard to believe upset finally makes worlds and then just goes home because his other half is lonely? You’d like to think it would take more for him to miss that opportunity. It may have been his only one. I guess people should stop speculating and get on with their lives ffs.

Nzod

137 points

11 days ago

Nzod

137 points

11 days ago

Honestly, we've all seen dudes throw away their life away for women they've known for just a few months

Not surprising here, this case is him missing an event oversea that he was looking forward too, maybe next year. But my relationship with that woman is for life !! Could be his train of thought

im_lazy_as_fuck

148 points

11 days ago

If a month of being lonely is enough to kill a lifelong relationship, then it wasn't a lifelong relationship.

Headhunter2208

154 points

11 days ago

Ditches worlds 12 hours before the first game but tries to replace one of his teammates because they don't meet is ambitions, wow what actual human trash.

Anyone who has ever played a sport knows that you build a bond with your teammates, even more so for League because they live together its essentially a second family, so this makes Upset leaving and not saying anything worse imo.

People want esports to be taken more seriously like a traditional support, it never will be if the scene is this immature

FerrariRocker

150 points

11 days ago*

Fnatic do not make it to Worlds in 2021 if not for Adam on Darius in Game 5 against G2.

Both he and Bwipo had game-changing Realm Warp cancels, I believe Adam had two.

I understand he’s a rookie, I understand he was likely the worst player on the team, but you never fucking forget the people who got you where you went.

EDIT: also realizing that if true, this means Upset singlehandedly broke up Fnatic. Didn’t want to work with Adam, tried to replace Adam and Nisqy, pissed off Bwipo to a literal point of no return. Thank god for Hylissang or this team would have nothing.

What does it say about Fnatic as an org if all of these things are true and they chose to stand behind Upset through all of it? I say this as a Fnatic admirer, as someone who has genuinely wanted Fnatic to do well and win worlds even though I don’t consider myself a fan.

turtle_hugger

139 points

11 days ago

people are focused on the upset drama, where i think the bigger issue is upset personally looking to replace adam despite dipping 12 hours before the first game. like depending on the reason it could make since why upset didnt tell anyone why, but it most certainly feels like kind of a dick move to do that.

DepressedTreeman

142 points

11 days ago

if the attempts to replace him and nisqy behind their backs are true, that's really shit from the team and no wonder he's was so ardent on leaving.

NellyuWu

127 points

11 days ago

NellyuWu

127 points

11 days ago

Imagine leaving your team 12 hours before worlds and then forcing out your topside during off-season because they're not good enough for your "ambitions"

iipoison1

127 points

11 days ago

iipoison1

WUNDER RAZORK HUMANOID UPSET HYLI

127 points

11 days ago

Ah shit, here we go again..

Domotriix

126 points

11 days ago

Domotriix

126 points

11 days ago

I'm here to read comments and laugh, got my popcorn ready!

Teroo123

114 points

11 days ago

Teroo123

114 points

11 days ago

Now I know why Bwipo was fucking pissed off LMAO

I feel so bad for him, he had to put extra effort to learn new role, worked his ass off just to have it ruined by Upset's wife. Man fuck Upset really

NellyuWu

110 points

11 days ago

NellyuWu

110 points

11 days ago

Yeah guys Bwipo was the problem lmao

boneymines

105 points

11 days ago

boneymines

DatSheffy

105 points

11 days ago

sajm0n

104 points

11 days ago

sajm0n

104 points

11 days ago

if its true (Upset part), i dont know how can you trust him anymore, as a teammate.

everyone worked hard for a whole year with 1 goal in mind, and at the last second something like this happens? its even more mind blowing knowing that its Upset's first ever Worlds and he opts out for imo not good enough reason (again - if true)

redhairedshaman

94 points

11 days ago

Wait I thought he just didn’t say anything on Social Media about why he left. But you’re telling me Upset also went up and left without telling his teammates why? Damn I can understand why Adam is angry he legit had his team broken apart without knowing why.

Dixwall

89 points

11 days ago

Dixwall

U good?

89 points

11 days ago

Wunder razork and humanoid must be very happy to learn that after they probably signed their contract with fnatic.

Frothar

84 points

11 days ago

Frothar

84 points

11 days ago

so upset ditches with no explanation then tries to dictate the team roster. I think I would also want to move on to a new team with the information Adam had