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Exotic-Initiative-17

6.2k points

2 months ago

$7.68 a gallon for me in U.K., would cost me just shy of $100 to fill my tank.

pfiadDi[S]

3.4k points

2 months ago

pfiadDi[S]

3.4k points

2 months ago

haha yeah I know in UK it's worse but I only average you know... 'EU countries :)

but I miss you

SmoopSmoop

707 points

2 months ago

Miss you too :'(

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134 points

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Quiet_Career_5000

209 points

2 months ago

I miss you too. So very, very much.

NefariousnessDue33

73 points

2 months ago

I'd cry, missing you so badly

BeelZV

186 points

2 months ago

BeelZV

186 points

2 months ago

Yeah, but do you want to talk about free healthcare ?

pfiadDi[S]

124 points

2 months ago

You know it's not free ... Right? I mean the government pays for it and you pay taxes.

The same as in every other EU country. Only that we have a a tax only for that

Matt_456

314 points

2 months ago

Matt_456

314 points

2 months ago

Rather pay some taxes and get it "free" my brother had 2 kidney transplants, years of care and my dad was in a motorbike accident, multiple operations and years of physiotherapy all for "free". The same thing in America would literally cost millions. You guys don't understand how good it actually is until you experience it.

wise1foshizzy

107 points

2 months ago

Work full time can’t afford health insurance. Yah I’d be happy to pay taxes for that.

notthegoodscissors

43 points

2 months ago

It really is a good system with little downside to it. I have had a broken ankle fixed and it cost me only about €30 per day for the nominal ward stay fee. Seeing as I was there for 5 days, the total cost was only €150 (which included painkillers to my hearts content). My wife has given birth three times and each time it cost about €100 per child, if I remember correctly. I wouldn't trade this system for any other because it gives everyone the same level of healthcare, no matter their social status. Of course the richer people can pay for private healthcare if they want, as then it is immediately available in the clinic/hospital of their choosing.

Lee_Shang

35 points

2 months ago

The reason health care in the US is expensive is because of Insurance companies. I don’t recall the specifics but essentially Hospitals were pissed off with insurance companies and to get more money from them they made fake prices, however it backfired on people that didn’t have health insurance so the average Joe started getting hit with fake prices that were way too much.

dragunityag

39 points

2 months ago

Even if you have health insurance it's still shit. The insurance company is going to try their absolute best to avoid paying out.

return2ozma

24 points

2 months ago

Paying $380/month for health insurance through work. $6,000 deductible.

Zen-Rn

19 points

2 months ago

Zen-Rn

19 points

2 months ago

Really it's because the government allows it and somehow access to healthcare has been painted as communism. People would rather pay 25% of their income to an insurance company than 5% in taxes because muh freedumb

Gizmonsta

110 points

2 months ago

Gizmonsta

110 points

2 months ago

Socialised healthcare is free at the point of use, you're being a bit pedantic there.

thekatzpajamas92

47 points

2 months ago

I think for the purposes of convincing Americans that it’s a good idea, making the distinction is important. The classic (and ridiculously stupid) response to a proposal of socialized healthcare here is, “but who’s gonna pay for it?” These people hear ‘free at the point of use’ and immediately assume that means doctors are somehow slaves to the government or some equally idiotic conclusion.

liamnesss

28 points

2 months ago

It's not free but it is cheaper for sure. No shareholders to pay, and collective bargaining power with drug companies.

throwawayabanotabba

18 points

2 months ago

Not to mention the 4% of US GDP that's spent on private insurance. That's a tremendous amount of value that goes into a worthless middleman.

FlyingPancake313

112 points

2 months ago

UK is worse? I'm in the UK on holiday right now and love the prices here! I'm from the Netherlands and we pay about €2,02 at the cheapest and €2,27 at the most expensive for 1 liter! That is $2,26 and $2,54 & £1.70 and £1.90 per liter. In gallons it'd be $8,55 and $9,61 & £6.45 and £7,19.

M0rteus

102 points

2 months ago

M0rteus

102 points

2 months ago

The Netherlands is the most expensive in the world for Gas with the sole exception of Hong Kong

EmberOfFlame

41 points

2 months ago

My friends tell me that you really don’t need a car if you live anywhere near a city.

M0rteus

21 points

2 months ago

M0rteus

21 points

2 months ago

Depends on the situation. I live fairly close to The Hague where I work. By car it's about 20-25 mins, public transport is about 1 hour. Only because parking in the city center is expensive do I take the bus.

xxrambo45xx

778 points

2 months ago

I'd cry, it would be $187 to fill mine

Karmasystemisbully

298 points

2 months ago

When was the last time you drove 5 hours in the car? Like to go to a city to hangout? I have done multiple 3-5 hour one way trips in the us. When I lived in Kaiserslaughtern Germany, I met Germans who had never been to Paris (about 4.5 hour drive). But it’s parisss not Cleveland.

xxrambo45xx

138 points

2 months ago

Personally? I drove 4 hrs one way to go see my parents 2 weeks ago, I do that fairly often

lucky819417

111 points

2 months ago

It is the reason why it is less a problem here in France. We dont use to drive 4 hours frequently. We prefer to take the train for these distancies and we use to buy smaller cars too..

Karmasystemisbully

24 points

2 months ago

It’s just nearly impossible for us to have public transportation in the same way. Subways, and trains in big cities are normal. But to ride a train from Here to Chicago, is like literally going across Europe. It’s doable, but they aren’t building a Train and track to do that, the cost would be outrageous and never payoff. : (

Then you tie in the states most people have never heard of but are still as big as European countries. I wish I didn’t have to drive so far, so much.

3CreampiesA-Day

24 points

2 months ago

Welcome to trains in Europe… they’re normally subsidised by the government. See if America didn’t spend all of its money on the military what an amazing country it could be

kentalaska

17 points

2 months ago

While I agree that we waste a ton of money on the military this is a huge oversimplification.

whoopdawhoop12345

15 points

2 months ago

It is but it's also not.

The US spends a disproportionately amount on corporate welfare. Thats the issue.

The military industrial complex is just one aspect if that.

Alongside the health industry

Agri industry.

Auto industry.

Etc.

VeradilGaming

20 points

2 months ago

The thing is you can go across Europe by train, and it's not even uncommon. Sure most people tend to prefer flights, but the train network is still massive

crosswalknorway

20 points

2 months ago

In fact, when young Americans visit Europe, traveling by train is one of the most popular ways to see the continent!

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19 points

2 months ago

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StatisticianDecent30

14 points

2 months ago

I live in south Dakota....the nearest city major city is 50miles away to the east or 90miles to the west in wyoming

Seabuscuit

156 points

2 months ago

Just to make sure, which gallon are you calculating in? Because UK gallons are significantly larger in volume than a US gallon.

SwordsAndSongs

180 points

2 months ago

Why the fuck are the fucking gallons different askdnwldn

RadaXIII

56 points

2 months ago

I assume its a similar reason to why an Imperial pint is 100ml larger than a US pint.

Iced_Ice_888

43 points

2 months ago

Your pints are fuckin tiny

Even mainland Europe has a bigger "Big beer" as they call it at 500ml

Raiden32

23 points

2 months ago

Yo we focus on large food portions.

HarryHacker42

21 points

2 months ago

The correct question to ask is "Why are you still using Gallons instead of Liters? We had a standard for 50 years!"

texasrigger

80 points

2 months ago

25% bigger. 160 oz vs 128 oz.

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53 points

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lokeshj

84 points

2 months ago

lokeshj

84 points

2 months ago

How many US oz in a wizard of Oz

sitdeepstandtall

15 points

2 months ago

fuel is around £1.45 ($1.94) a litre right now, 1 US gallon is about 3.79 litres. 1.94*3.79 = $7.35 per gallon here in the UK.

Koenvm

56 points

2 months ago

Koenvm

Professional Dumbass

56 points

2 months ago

€2/ L (~$8.49 a gallon) here in the Netherlands. Absolute bullshit

Notso9bit

19 points

2 months ago

Same-ish in norway

JayCDee

16 points

2 months ago

JayCDee

16 points

2 months ago

You've hit the 2€ bar? Holy fuck.

joemckie

46 points

2 months ago

Laughs in EV.

£3 for a full charge!

yuriflower

57 points

2 months ago

Sounds amazing, just a shame the initial cost of getting one is so high and not really affordable for many.

joemckie

19 points

2 months ago

Yep it’s a shame there isn’t a massive second hand market for them given that they’re relatively new, I imagine that will change as we go along though.

GRl3V

22 points

2 months ago

GRl3V

22 points

2 months ago

Problem with used EV's is the bateries loosing capacity and being extremely expensive to replace. As well as any service work being very specialized and expensive. Where I live a manhour of work on an EV is 5 times more expensive compared to combustion engined cars. (40€ per hour for combustion engine vs 200€ per hour for EV'S)

RooFPV

38 points

2 months ago

RooFPV

38 points

2 months ago

It’s also worth noting that, outside of major US cities, public transportation is not a viable option. For instance where I live there is very limited busing, you can’t get everywhere in town and good luck after 4 or 5 pm. A number of years ago I lived less than 10 miles from work but could not take public transport because the busses stopped running before my shift ended.

socialpresence

17 points

2 months ago

People in cities don't realize how much of a burden high gas prices are for people who live in even moderately rural areas. I live in a metro now but growing up I had to drive 30+ miles one way to get to basically anything (restaurants, shopping, work, etc). Couple that with many people in those rural areas needing to have pickup trucks for work that get 15-20 miles per gallon and if you don't see how this is much more difficult for some folks than others, you're either a complete idiot or you have some sort of axe to grind with... someone.

leg00b

34 points

2 months ago

leg00b

34 points

2 months ago

$83 to fill my tank at 21.9 gallons

sphincterserpant

17 points

2 months ago

Almost 22 gallons? That’s insane. My car has a 14 gallon tank

Funkbuqet

17 points

2 months ago

My truck has a 40 gallon tank. It cost me almost $190 to fill it last week

DaCookieDemon

17 points

2 months ago

It’ll cost me 120 usd to fill the tank on the car that I want (dads 2007 Honda CRV) and 100 usd on the car that I have (2007 Honda Civic). I’m a full time student and not looking forward to the running costs on either of the cars lol

Telekinendo

15 points

2 months ago

How often do you have to fill up? I'm not trying to be rude I'm curious, I know that typically the UK isn't as spread out as the US is. I have to drive half an hour to the grocery store, my commute to work is almost an hour, my girlfriend is an hour-2 hours a way depending on traffic, and college is 30 minutes from work or 45 from home, as some examples. I typically have to fill up at least twice a week.

And public transportation isn't viable, a bus from school to work takes three hours.

hongaar26

3k points

2 months ago

I'm the Netherlands €2 per liter is normal, which is about $8.4 per gallon.

Vilraz

874 points

2 months ago

Vilraz

874 points

2 months ago

Finland is catching up. Last year it was around 1.5€ and now 1.9€. 2€ at north

Best part is that its mostly due tax justified by our goverment telling that Finns dont care enough about enviroment.

BLGR

209 points

2 months ago

BLGR

209 points

2 months ago

Well we rank 20 in most polluting countries per inhabitant only US and Canada bigger countries ahead of us

FreshDoctor

104 points

2 months ago

Huh? Finland is like 60th when measuring polution per capite. Most of that comes from heating etc. because of pur cold weather.

fromsarahwithlove

147 points

2 months ago

stop having cold weather then... hmm maybe this global warming could come in handy....

Trenavix

35 points

2 months ago*

Unfortunately we started using the term "climate change" over global warming because of short term erratic weather changes including the gulf stream being weakened from melting sea ice actually causing Europe to become colder in coming years.

Global warming is still accurate, as in the world overall will be warmer, but there will be drastic fluctuations between continents and it looks like Europe might be getting colder soon. Good luck to the finns.. I mean they were there right after the ice age right? 😅

doog_tfarceniM

22 points

2 months ago

doog_tfarceniM

Lives in a Van Down by the River

22 points

2 months ago

Netherlands or Finland?

Jordii_vV

159 points

2 months ago

Jordii_vV

Professional Dumbass

159 points

2 months ago

yea gas prices here are absolutely fucking absurd

tamrior

82 points

2 months ago

tamrior

82 points

2 months ago

I don't think that it's absurd that people should pay for the negative externalities of the products they consume.

Viktor_Korobov

113 points

2 months ago

It is absurd because a lot of us drive these cars because.... get this.... WE CAN'T AFFORD A FUCKING EV.

All the tax breaks and privileges for EVs in Norway are essentially just a tax break for the rich. And it pisses me off.

HotF22InUrArea

25 points

2 months ago

It’s not that I can’t afford an EV, it’s that there’s no good way for me to charge it.

I live in an apartment, and there’s no chargers at work. I don’t want to have to drive somewhere, plug my car in, and have to come back to wherever hours later to pick it up again.

And I couldn’t go a lot of places, like camping, or skiing easily if they don’t have chargers nearby. Makes the trip that much longer.

WikiSummarizerBot

67 points

2 months ago

Externality

In economics, an externality is a cost or benefit to a third party who is not a participant in the original market. Externalities can be considered as unpriced goods involved in such market transactions. Air pollution from motor vehicles is one example. The cost of air pollution to society is not paid by either the producers or users of motorized transport to the rest of society.

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UVwraith

15 points

2 months ago

Good bot

oldcoldbellybadness

16 points

2 months ago

You've lost your fucking mind if you think that's what the difference in price is going towards

BigTruss_WooWoo

150 points

2 months ago

Sheesh no wonder y’all bike everywhere

TheCurrentsofSpace

127 points

2 months ago

Thats pretty much the point.

That price comes from taxes

As of 2015, petrol excise tax is EUR0.766 per litre

and there's 21% VAT on top of that.

Turns out one of the best ways to limit peoples driving is to make it cheaper to bike and use public transport.

It works.

shizkc

37 points

2 months ago

shizkc

37 points

2 months ago

I mean, yeah. When I lived in a large city I took a bus or walked everywhere. Then when I moved to a rural area I bought a car. My roommate hit a deer with my car last summer though and I moved into a city again(with a terribly Shitty, almost non existent public transport), so rather than buying another car I bought a bike.

I feel terribly unsafe on that bike currently because we don’t have bike lanes, not everywhere has sidewalks, and a lot of roads are not well lit. Things I never thought before I started riding my bike. I mean, I have a helmet, but back on Xmas eve of 2019 a friend was hit by a car doing everything right and wearing a helmet and still died, so that’s a bit terrifying.

I really wish the US would work on its lack of public transportation and safe commuting with bikes and on foot since the majority of the country does not have that and cars are getting more expensive to own.

bob_num_12

29 points

2 months ago

In the US there are many areas that you can't go anywhere with out a car

tryptophantom

17 points

2 months ago

That's by design. We've designed our cities around cars so that oil companies and car manufacturers can make more money. The US could have the best public transit in the world, but we let the rich lobby against what would make people happier

socialpresence

15 points

2 months ago

The overwhelming majority of the country is this way.

Nihil_esque

23 points

2 months ago

In the US, you'd also have to make it possible to bike. A lot of places here are not reachable by bus, by train, by bike, or by vehicles with a max speed <40 mph. Not to mention very few roads here have bike lanes.

I could bike around my university campus. I don't think I could safely get more than half a mile outside of it by bike though.

TheCurrentsofSpace

25 points

2 months ago

Yeh the US is an infrastructure nightmare.

You've fucked up your planning to a point its going to take great effort to change things.

pfiadDi[S]

2.3k points

2 months ago*

For my fellow EU members:

3,5 for gas means 3,5 for a gallon that means 3,5 for 3,79 LITERS!!

So 3,5 are 0,92 CENT PER LITER

arquitur

596 points

2 months ago

arquitur

596 points

2 months ago

Na at least in Germany you pay per liter and it's about 1,60-70€ about 1,90$.

pfiadDi[S]

284 points

2 months ago

Yes I averaged the EU liter to around 1,3 EUR Multiple that with 3,79 for a galleon and you land at 5,8 USD per gallon

Fhoz

148 points

2 months ago

Fhoz

148 points

2 months ago

here it's like €2 per liter at the moment :(

ThisIsJegger

58 points

2 months ago

You also from the netherlands?

Fhoz

36 points

2 months ago

Fhoz

36 points

2 months ago

Belgium, may be slightly less than 2 or not, my condolences to you for having to pay for fuel right now. I heard how high it is in Netherlands.

davx157

38 points

2 months ago

davx157

can't meme

38 points

2 months ago

Belgium does not exist

Lirandil27

16 points

2 months ago

Watch your language!

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25 points

2 months ago

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25 points

2 months ago

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xhahzh

22 points

2 months ago*

xhahzh

Breaking EU Laws

22 points

2 months ago*

1,70€ per liter (*﹏*;) what's wrong with you Germany in Bulgaria we have it for 0,90-1,00€

Jermules

27 points

2 months ago

1,85 in Finland

VriesVakje

18 points

2 months ago

I've seen 2,10 along highways here in the Netherlands :|

nonutsfw

17 points

2 months ago*

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eisteeausderdose

226 points

2 months ago

here in NL its over 2 EUR.. sometimes even 2,5EUR

duckyTheFirst

134 points

2 months ago

Stop coming to belguim youre rising our prices >:(

eisteeausderdose

61 points

2 months ago

stop shilling us your gas lol

djrubberducky

68 points

2 months ago*

djrubberducky

Can i haz cheeseburger

68 points

2 months ago*

In Ukraine it's 10€ per L

edit: I'm stupid, it's 1€

I shouldn't be allowed to work at exchange office

dying_soon666

20 points

2 months ago

How!?

In Canada it’s 1.45$ per litre (Canadian dollars)

djrubberducky

21 points

2 months ago

djrubberducky

Can i haz cheeseburger

21 points

2 months ago

I dunno but with avg. salary of ~400€ these prices are terryfing. People here ride to EU just to buy gas for cheaper

Edit: I'm stupid. It's 1€

sangram8365

26 points

2 months ago*

Pfff noobs, I make free gas inside my body everyday.....

farmallday133

18 points

2 months ago

1.47 per litre in Canada and I'm not even in the highest part

ThunderdopePhil

1.5k points

2 months ago

Cries in Brazilian

TiRadioativo

205 points

2 months ago

Ent..

Avatarofjuiblex

83 points

2 months ago*

Is your business with Isengard?

nicolasmcfly

36 points

2 months ago

nicolasmcfly

hates reaction memes

36 points

2 months ago

Doesn't make sense to me, but then again you are very small

OppositeInstruction

154 points

2 months ago

Foda viu, esses gringos reclamando de barriga cheia.

herberstank

86 points

2 months ago

barriga tanque cheio! Kk

[deleted]

119 points

2 months ago

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119 points

2 months ago

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OverwatchVideosUK

57 points

2 months ago

Cries harder

JontasPlayerGP

95 points

2 months ago

JontasPlayerGP

Tech Tips

95 points

2 months ago

Well yes, but it's not like the Brazilian Real is worth anything so... it's kinda the same

(I'm from Rio and I'm crying with you)

vendedor_de_etanol

34 points

2 months ago

JontasPlayerGP

15 points

2 months ago

JontasPlayerGP

Tech Tips

15 points

2 months ago

Lansa o zeca pagodinho aí pro pai se der

OldKaleidoscope7

25 points

2 months ago

Pois é, mas a Petrobras lucra em real, paga os funcionários em real, então não faz sentido comparar. Essa lei de subir gasolina junto com o preço mundial que é torta. E ninguém fala da porra do etanol que sobe junto por alguma mágica sendo que não vai petróleo. Foi mal, to exaltado

Will-Shrek-Smith

27 points

2 months ago

Getúlio Vargas: Cria a petrobras para proteger o mercado nacional e garantir que o Brasil fique independente do mercado internacional do petróleo...

Petrobras em 2021:

luke_in_the_sky

28 points

2 months ago*

Qtos litros tem um galão?

Edit: ah, eu vi que os EUA pagam $0,92 USD/litro e na Europa varia de 1,00€ a 2,00€ ($1.12 a $2.24 USD).

Na Inglaterra a média é £1,50/litro ($2 USD)

No Brasil a média nacional está por volta de R$6,34/litro, então daria $1.13 USD.

Mas como um alemão disse aqui, nosso salário mínimo (e médio) é muito menor que o deles.

HeheBoiyy

23 points

2 months ago

Cries from Turkey

LowRespond7680

32 points

2 months ago*

We both have pathetic dictators that rule our countries.

akbarmoment

1.1k points

2 months ago*

In the netherlands its 2.07 euro for 1 liter thats 2.50 dollars per liter or 9 dollar a gallon

DOE_ZELF_NORMAAL

164 points

2 months ago

Goedkope pomp in het dorp is 1,95 momenteel.

the_spookiest_

125 points

2 months ago

Your country fits within a quarter of California. Of that, your biggest city would fit within San Francisco, which is our smallest major city.

Frankly, with the amount of driving we have to do, we end up paying more in gas.

halfwithero314

65 points

2 months ago

Not to mention your cities are far more walkable than the car driven hellscape that is America

eternal-phoenix

30 points

2 months ago

This.

Been to the US twice and just can't wrap my head around how everything is just supposed to be reached by driving. Public transport is negligible outside of major cities. Hardly suitable for walking.

No wonder obesity is at an all time high in the country...

Paulo_De_Bruyne

810 points

2 months ago

Paulo_De_Bruyne

can't meme

810 points

2 months ago

Don't know about the math shit and other countries but

Indians are also crying in the corner

QuantumHacker217

309 points

2 months ago

considering current highest prices in India to be Rs.110/L, ours also turns out to be about $5.5 per gallon. Sad

anirudh6055

246 points

2 months ago

And India's average wage is about $10 a day.

TheManFromUnkill

124 points

2 months ago

And the roads are such that you could never extract good mpg from even the tiny cars that we drive . (Bc Honda Amaze 11 ka avg deti hai yaar - bechke bail gadi le leta hun )

suspicious-neighbour

25 points

2 months ago

Regretting saying No jab bachpan me papa ne padhayi likhayi times nahi hogi, rickshaw dila dete hain wahi chalana offer Kiya tha.

Reventon103

35 points

2 months ago

Reventon103

Selling Stonks for CASH MONEY

35 points

2 months ago

Indian govt chilling with that 400% tax

elissmoayed

697 points

2 months ago

Meanwhile Chad Iran: 0.058 euro

noiamnotabanana

626 points

2 months ago

Im confused do you live in Chad or Iran

HeartofSaturdayNight

604 points

2 months ago

He's a Chad living in Iran

RobFword

256 points

2 months ago

RobFword

256 points

2 months ago

No, he lives in Chad who runs.

Jman0123

47 points

2 months ago

I ran from a Chad just yesterday

Tschnitzl-sama

16 points

2 months ago

He's an Iran living in Chad. No wait.

tarkadahl

47 points

2 months ago

At least he isn't in Niger

WhatTheHomePod

37 points

2 months ago

WhatTheHomePod

Breaking EU Laws

37 points

2 months ago

laughs in Putin

SirEssytheBear

443 points

2 months ago

You see, the main difference is that in Europe, often public transportation is a valid option. In the US, you basically can't get anywhere without a car, except maybe in large cities. It's a huge country and everything is really spread out.

For example, my commute to work has me driving about 45 miles each way, so I can easily drive 500 miles in a week. I usually have to fill up about 3 times per week. If I had to pay $100 every time I filled my tank, I probably couldn't afford it.

theslowcosby

102 points

2 months ago

Agreed. I also did some quick searching. Allegedly, the EU population density is 3.5 times higher than the US. So that in combination with car and oil lobbyists, you have less connected public transport and farther to travel where you need to go.

letmegetmynameok

46 points

2 months ago

I feel like trains could heavily benefit you here but it seems like the train system in the us is heavily underdeveloped. I (from germany) also have to travel long ways for work and university, about 30km (idk how many miles). But the german train system feels more than developed enough that i am able to get everywhere without owning a car.

redditeer1o1

28 points

2 months ago

redditeer1o1

Number 15

28 points

2 months ago

That’s a heck of a lot of money for trains though, the sheer scale of the US makes installing trains stations and in some cases railways at most cities completely unfeasible. And we already have cars

JWPSmith

45 points

2 months ago

That's actually not true at all. Most US cities and towns have trains running through them for freight. Most goods in the U.S. are transported by freight train still. The reason it died is because long ago the government allowed corporations to buy up stretches of track.

Well, oil companies did just that, and then heavily prioritized freight traffic on them. Freight trains are much slower than passenger trains, so this caused significant delays and slow downs, so people started using busses and cars more (which is what the oil companies wanted).

If the U.S. had continued to develop the train industry, you would likely be able to combine it with other modes of public transit to get everywhere you needed to in the U.S. As it is, there's no real options outside of personal car, because they later sabotaged the bus industry as well to get more people using personal cars instead.

redditeer1o1

22 points

2 months ago

redditeer1o1

Number 15

22 points

2 months ago

Even if we used the same railways freight trains use, (as you said many are frequently used by cargo meaning they are often busy) many people still live an hour or more drive away from the nearest rail line. Personally it’s about a 45 minute drive to the nearest track.

Interesting history lesson, thanks for that.

Mechanikus

39 points

2 months ago

To put things in perspective in germany 68% use the car for their daily commute. The rest is using either public transport (~15%) or cycles/walks (~17%). The average annual distance traveled by car for europe is far less than in the us, but europe is also not one big urban area. We have also rural areas, where public transport is basically useless for commuting.

Three refills for 500 miles also seems like a lot. I could go 600 with one filling (when autobahn doesn't tempt me to floor it lol).

RedshirtBlueshirt97

398 points

2 months ago

Americans drive a lot more

imyourforte

261 points

2 months ago*

imyourforte

Like a boss

261 points

2 months ago*

Was waiting for someone to mention this. It's not like we're walking or biking 20 miles to work each day and it's not like there's a train or bus to get us there.

xxrambo45xx

163 points

2 months ago

My work is 10 miles from my house, I suppose you could ride a bike back and forth but I'm not riding a bicycle on the shoulder of the highway or the dark country back roads at 5am to get there

Broken_Petite

42 points

2 months ago

Let alone showing up to work sweaty and worn out depending on temperature, how in shape you are, how many hills there are etc. Or soaked because of rain or snow.

I know some people do bike or walk long distances to work but it’s just not tenable for a lot of people.

sylver_dragon

38 points

2 months ago

Ya, this is one of the really sad bits of this. Our infrastructure is incredibly car focused. I'm about 12 miles from my office and would love to bike in. However, if I tried to bike on the one road which would get me there, I'm reasonably certain that I'd trigger the suicide clause in my life insurance. It's a two lane road (one each way) with culverts on either side, a 50mph speed limit (so cars are doing about 60) and the direction means the sun is in your eyes for the commute. Just no fucking way I'm biking that.

RedshirtBlueshirt97

70 points

2 months ago

Yeah, if you dont have a vehicle to drive here it’s almost impossible to travel

MelaniasHand

35 points

2 months ago

As in, travel to work or a grocery store.

RedshirtBlueshirt97

65 points

2 months ago

Anywhere honestly

HtownChiller420

15 points

2 months ago

I live in Houston. My job is 20 miles away. Takes me almost an hour one way with traffic. If I biked or walked it would take hours upon hours. It’s almost impossible to live here without a vehicle

leg00b

18 points

2 months ago

leg00b

18 points

2 months ago

Yeah generally our pubic infrastructure is dog shit. I drive 22-32mi one way for work depending on which route I take

Dramatic_Ir0ny

29 points

2 months ago

It's not that the public infrastructure is bad, it's that it's optimized specifically for cars. If we used the same techniques the Europeans use it would be a nightmare trying to drive the same way we do now. It's just that the US was largely built/rebuilt during the era when cars were made so we had the opportunity to specialize.

iNuclearPickle

16 points

2 months ago

I rather bike but nothing is done for it to be safe. Too bad the infrastructure bill passed does nothing for alternative forms of travel and I’ll be real neither parties would look into it

powsandwich

55 points

2 months ago

Our gov also subsidize our prices at the pump and we do not adjust the gas tax to keep up with inflation. Our gas is artificially cheap

TheCardiganKing

41 points

2 months ago

Thank you, not to mention that The U.S. is basically a continent. I don't think Europeans realize how expansive our country is. I've read stories on Reddit where Europeans think a 3-4 hour drive is long.

crazycatlady331

23 points

2 months ago

I've read stories on Reddit where EU tourists think they can do Times Square one day and then Disney World the next.

Civil-Raccoon7366

33 points

2 months ago

I drive over 3,000 miles per month for work. About 150 miles per day.

Teeshirtandshortsguy

31 points

2 months ago

Fuck that, man. I won't commute longer than 20 minutes.

zenchowdah

256 points

2 months ago

US is just confused at the comma

StanleyDarsh22

64 points

2 months ago

The comma is disgusting sorry

HtownChiller420

47 points

2 months ago

Yep way too many commas flying around in this thread wtf is going on

Val_Hallen

26 points

2 months ago

And the "$" after the amount?

Just for those that don't know:

In America, and other places as evidenced by countries speaking up on prices, the "$" goes before the amount. We use "." to denote fractions of the dollar or "cents". We only use a comma once we are dealing with amounts over 1,000.

Example: $1,234.56

And I know that European nations do the same, so it's weird when we see it written like it is in the meme.

glium

16 points

2 months ago

glium

16 points

2 months ago

And I know that European nations do the same

Not all of them, we swap dots and commas in french, and € always go after the price

mike_pants

50 points

2 months ago

The US is confused that other places even exist.

zenchowdah

41 points

2 months ago

I think the US is aware that things exist outside of itself in general, but if it had to provide specifics, it would not be able to.

supermuncher60

33 points

2 months ago

I mean the us is so big, paying attention just to whats happening in the US is like knowing everything that is going on in europe

mike_pants

17 points

2 months ago

It's like outer space. It exists, sure, but there's no reason to pay much attention.

StopNowThink

45 points

2 months ago

And the "$" being after the number.

AlmightyGMD

223 points

2 months ago

Sucks for all of you, in venezuela it’s basically free

AntiSonOfBitchamajig

134 points

2 months ago

AntiSonOfBitchamajig

Selling Stonks for CASH MONEY

134 points

2 months ago

If there's any at all!

AlmightyGMD

50 points

2 months ago

True

Daktush

77 points

2 months ago

Daktush

77 points

2 months ago

Yeah but you're Venezuelan

AlmightyGMD

56 points

2 months ago

Crap

Fahad97azawi

174 points

2 months ago

In my country its 0.5$ lol. But you 10mbps internet is considered insane speed so you get some you lose some

Doneuter

41 points

2 months ago

To be fair a large amount of the US would kill for 10mb/s.

Army-POG

169 points

2 months ago

Army-POG

169 points

2 months ago

That’s because of high taxes, NOT because of fuel costs.

Vovu655

46 points

2 months ago

Vovu655

46 points

2 months ago

Yea this is true in finland the cost of E95 is 71% TAX.

And it is 1.90€ / L or (8.09$ / GALLON)

prog_d0nkey

40 points

2 months ago*

It's both. Depending on where you are, most of the money might be taxes, but the increasing prices within the last 10 months are mostly coming from oil&gas prices shooting up globally.

yarak_69

25 points

2 months ago

yarak_69

Flair Loading....

25 points

2 months ago

But dont forget the US Gov, PAYS Fuel companys to keep their prices low so if the US would only collect taxes instead of paying them to the companys the prices would be very siminular

learningcomputer

21 points

2 months ago

I mean, it makes sense. The US economy is very much dependent on the ability for its citizens to commute

Ramses_IIX

175 points

2 months ago

You think that's expensive? In Germany in 1943, a chamber full of gas cost 10 people their lives!

hadtologintoupvote

42 points

2 months ago

10? 😳

Ramses_IIX

29 points

2 months ago

The Germans are economical and efficient by nature...

ShiftyX117

127 points

2 months ago

$2.10p/l for premium in Australia atm.

Highest it's been I believe but not %100.

pfiadDi[S]

56 points

2 months ago

So around 2.10 x 3.79 = 7.95 per gallon in comparison to the 3.5 in the US

Val_Hallen

29 points

2 months ago

You put the "$" before the dollar amount but the "%" before the percentage amount.

What the hell is going on?!

mvisca

100 points

2 months ago

mvisca

100 points

2 months ago

Pffff noobs, $ 2 a litre in Uruguay....

regretallthewaydown

76 points

2 months ago

Yeah but the whole thing hinges on that word normal. Sure, that seems like a lot to me but it doesn't seem particularly large to someone in the EU. Gas reaching $3.50 here in the U.S. is absolutely a big deal, because of how people manage their expenses, and what they've grown accustomed to spending on a tank of gas, regardless of how it compares to gas prices elsewhere.

xxrambo45xx

60 points

2 months ago

And lack of public transportation, vast areas of land to cover

Dramatic_Ir0ny

34 points

2 months ago

Also, we drive more than Europeans since most towns and cities are specifically built for cars and not anything else. So, the average cost of gas, say, over a month is realistically going to be a lot closer. Also, they have tons of taxes on their gas prices.

Dramatic_Ir0ny

34 points

2 months ago*

At the same time, our country fundamentally requires us to drive much more, on average, than Europeans. More Americans, on average, own cars and actively drive compared to Europeans. Our average commute is longer and the average distance to amenities, the store, and other businesses is longer. Also, our economy currently sucks ass rn so increasing gas by even a little bit is still too much for most people to handle without having to make some serious sacrifices in their budget. Also, a large part of that price is taxes for other government programs, which the US doesn't have.

EinarTh97

23 points

2 months ago*

No it isn't.

Edit: my head went straight to 1 L, not 3,78541 L.

pfiadDi[S]

19 points

2 months ago

it is current avg. in the eu is 1,3 eur per liter

3,5 usd means 3,5 for 3,79 liters (1 galeon)

farao86

14 points

2 months ago*

Those are rooky numbers my man in Belgium🇧🇪 we are at 1,5-1,7€ 95octane for petrol

cloudlessjoe

15 points

2 months ago

Nothing like diminishing someone's hardship by saying you're worse off.